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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 78 points 8 months ago

funny-clown-hammer seriously disgusting and like I feel embarassed for non Zionists. Pulling this Holocaust card anyone tries to hold them to account - just fuck all the way off.

Who is holding concentration camps? Who is denying an entire race of people equal rights? Who is doing all the shit Nazis did? Who is doing a genocidal ethnostate? Yeah Never Again take Israel seriously.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

Hell, who's sterilizing Jews? It sure isn't Hamas

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Never Again*

*To me specifically

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Yeah. You can kind of see where GOP Evangelicals get it. It'd be interesting to run compare speeches from different fascist movements and compare the "us against the world" rhetoric.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Gop evangelicals getting what from whom?

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

They've been claiming they're being persecuted like Jewish people were persecuted by the Reich. i think a few of them even brought out yellow stars a few years ago.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 77 points 8 months ago

Build a prison, run a prison, prisoners revolt

"this is literally the holocaust"

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

Prisons are for people convicted of crimes. They're running concentration camps.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

The real holocaust started when my uncle fell off the guard tower

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 70 points 8 months ago

how the fuck do zionists take themselves seriously

[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 49 points 8 months ago
[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 8 months ago

Care to share? I don't know of any quotes by him.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 64 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. "

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 50 points 8 months ago

Another Sarte quote I find relevant in these times is "In order to treat a man like a dog you must first know that he is a man."

Israel is fully aware they are waging an inhumane campaign before the Gaza bombings even started.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 8 months ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

It's pretty much always relevant these days. Both for explaining how the discourse is going, and for personally remembering that the person you're arguing probably knows that whatever they're saying is supporting murder and genocide and they're just completely okay with that but playing a role to gain sympathy from people who aren't.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 67 points 8 months ago

As a non-Jewish person who HAS studied, fairly in depth, definitely way more than most Americans (and apparently Israelis too based on comments in last weeks/years), I find this cynical usage of the utter destruction of a people and political opponents (because it's important to remember Nazis hated Jews for racial reasons but hated socialists and communists for their ideology and they came for the leftists first) to be just, truly, beyond words and expression horrific.

This display trivializes, downplays, and makes a joke of something that, again, a lot of people do not understand the depths of. When I sit here typing this and I remember the quotes from German Nazis and collaborators post-war speaking frankly of the atrocities they participated in, and I mean the stuff they talk about... I don't even like re-typing it. I spend a lot of time thinking of the images formed in my head when I first read those accounts and that was years ago! Most of the images are of the eastern front, in the Baltic countries, where the villagers would happily provide names and locations of the local Jewish families and sometimes even did the genocide before the "special" SS commandos dispatched to murder Jews en masse even showed up. I mean, this is peering into one of the most bleak darknesses humanity has ever allowed.

And this man and his associates, supported, one has to assume, by his government, is using the persecution and the destruction of these people, his relatives, to perpetuate a modern duplication of the atrocities which give readers some level of PTSD to even read, much less experience or hear from family members.

Israel and its supporters are a disgrace to humanity and they actively damage the memories of all the lives lost because of the evils of fascism and specifically Naziism for this discussion. Unfortunately, I know that this is actually much of the underlying point for these right wing types. They don't want people to remember that socialists were despised and murdered by Nazis as well because that might make people realize which side was fighting the Nazis from the start and that it might be ridiculous to paint that side as anti-Semitic ie the same as the Nazis.

Zionism is anti-Semitism Zionists and Israel do not and will not ever represent all Jews The crimes of Israel are not the crimes of Jews. They are the crimes of men like Bibi and this asshole and all who support him, all who contribute to the ongoing genocide of Palestinians, and those who support it from afar like nearly the entire US government. Every Israeli citizen, American, Canadian, British, French, German, etc. should all be ashamed it's been allowed to continue and get to this point. It's our moral duty to do everything we can to end this insanity. I have no faith in people like this man or Biden, but I have some faith left that average people who see crushed children will join in demanding an end to this shit if they know others will stand beside them. If this isn't something that motivates people to actually do something about our government(s) in the western world then we truly are lost to the darkness and deserve to be destroyed.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago

This is kind of on point for Zionism. Blaming the Jewish people murdered in the holocaust for their own murder and vowing to be tough musclar fascists who won't just "lay down and die like they did" has been part of zionist rhetoric on and off over the decades. A core part of Zionist anti-Semitism is contempt for what Zionists viewed as weak and passive Jewish culture. If Fascist then RevitalizeTheNation.exe

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

Thank you for saying this.

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 63 points 8 months ago

I don’t even understand this as political theater. Israel has never followed UN resolutions and typically sees its very existence as a nuisance.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The role of the UN is largely performative. It exists as much to rally various countries to independent action as to create global consensus.

So the Israelis show up in striped pajamas and grease paint on their faces, while insisting that every living Gaza resident is another Tomás de Torquemada, and a bunch of American press agents film them in sepia while playing violin music. And then Congress green lights $14B in anti-Palestinian nerve gas while the sea otters on cable news clap.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

You got quiet the way with words.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago

Loudly yelling at the UN gives them a platform to demonstrate how strong and resolute they are in the face of all the anti-semites in the world who want to kill them because they're Jews doing Jewish stuff. It's political theater for their supporters at home.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago

[redacted]

The real holocaust survivors who raised me taught me to be disgusted with genocide. Full stop.

[-] worker_bear@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

how the fuck do you literally cosplay a fucking Weimar Jew????? holy fucking shit! holy fucking shit!

this image actually just made me insane

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is the most horrific seen I've seen in at least 10 minutes, which is coincidentally the last time I saw a live post from Gaza.

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago

Can’t wait for the Spielberg Oscar Bait about bombing Hospitals. Yes, yes, I know… Step away from the lathe.

[-] SupFBI@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Israeli F16 pilots, crying in their cockpits as they're forced to loose their bombs onto a hospital.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Now with more practical effects!

[-] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago

They should also do blackface

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

It would be interesting to see a skin-tone map of the Knesset and government compared to Israel writ large.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago

using D-Day to fellate the US war boner

[-] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

The most blatant action of the Holocaust Industry in decades

[-] glans@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Comparing the situation of modern israel to the holocaust is fully holocaust denialism.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

i hate them so much

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

Weird time for Israel to bring up vaccine oppression, but go off.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

holy fuck...

how did I forget that that happened

This shit is so fucking absurd fuckin pika-cousin-suffering

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

“HATE.

LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR YOU AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT.

FOR YOU. I FEEL, HATE. HATE.”

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago
[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Inverse Godwin's Law, but it's just regular Godwin's Law with a Zionist coat of paint

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Imma call it Herzl's Law after the father of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, and especially because of this quote of his:

"We [Jews] are naturally drawn into those places where we are not persecuted, and our appearance there gives rise to persecution. This is the case, and will inevitably be so, everywhere..."

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Stalin probably wouldn't have stopped at Berlin if they had called off the D-day, so this tracks

[-] glans@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

I know they are doing so many materially worse things like mass murder but I cant stop thinking about this since i saw it. It is so perverse and shitty and shameless.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

I wish only suffering for these demons.

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