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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Feeling a little good this afternoon seeing all the solidarity out there for Palestine. It really feels like the only thing the zionists have control over is the narrative put out by the msm, which very few young people give a shit about. More and more people are coming out as anti-capitalist and anti-israel which gives me some motivation to go on. Does it help the people on the ground being bombed in total darkness rn, no, it doesn't, but hopefully whatever aid people like Hasan and Shaun are doing can make somewhat of a dent. I really don't want to give in to despair. If Israel genocides these people the entire fucking world is awake and will see.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Israel apparently intend to try to stop Musk from providing Starlink to aid agencies in Gaza.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

No offense to any Baltics posters here, but liberals from those countries are the dumbest motherfuckers I've seen in a while. Finland really is convinced that China and Russia are working together to keep the Baltics down with the pipeline accident, claiming that accidents like that just don't happen on such a common route.

Then again, America worshippers don't have the best critical thinking skills. An unfortunate side effect of consuming Marvel content exclusively.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia says it will build close ties with North Korea 'in all areas' (Reuters, 26th of October, 2023)

Russia said on Thursday that it planned to build close ties with North Korea in all areas, a day after South Korea, Japan and the United States condemned what they said were weapons supplies from Pyongyang to Moscow.

Asked about the accusation by the three countries, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: “There are many such reports, they are all groundless as a rule, there are no specifics. Such reports have been around for a long time. We see no point in commenting on this.” He added: “North Korea is our neighbour and we continue and will continue to develop close relations in all areas.”

Pressed on whether weapons deliveries had taken place, Peskov said: “We don’t comment on this in any way.”

sicko-yes

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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago

One thing that's quite interesting is the willingness of those on the right to signal boost leftist activism, even far leftist, when it suits them. If a significant enough split in the right occurred on a domestic issue it would open the door to the vanguard theory even with a weak left as a result of all activists with any ability to quickly mobilise people being on the left.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Speculation going around the USS Carney has no missiles. They allegedly fired off their entire anti-air payload when the Houthis attacked them. People are speculating that these platforms basically have a massive vulnerability to swaming tactics or just running out of ammunition.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Al Jazeera: Demonstrations in Israel against Gaza war

A protest against the fighting in Gaza is currently taking place in Tel Aviv.

Demonstrators held placards calling for a ceasefire and to negotiate a “hostage deal” to bring captives held by Hamas home.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Joy Behar: Rashida Tlaib ‘lies like Trump’ on Israel, Hamas conflict

Sorry in advance on the psychic damage. Doubling down on the same day the failing NY Times basically comes out and says the Israeli/US govt story doesn't hold up (that's as close as they will ever get to saying it wasn't a Hamas rocket, no matter the evidence).

All you need to know about Behar is in one sentence on her wikipedia page: "Behar resides in The Hamptons. She also owns a home on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. She is a Democrat." She is also an old as shit reactionary white American who has no knowledge of anything but lots and lots and lots of opinions.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

With it seeming like the Ukrainian counteroffensive is basically over now, this is my final bingo grid. No lines unfortunately; Russia did much better than I expected.

It's time to move on to the next offensive, and this is my bingo grid for Israel:

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[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago

the latest mass shooter in amerikkka is a troop, i am shocked

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Decided to take a look at some nafo dorks on twitter to see how they're taking this and, folks, they've turned themselves into a circular firing squad.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I am surprised nobody has thrown a shoe at Biden based on where we are on the Iraq war timeline.

Nitter

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Alright, this one is a long shot so I'll need some help turning this lathe but: Two state solution transitionary period where the Israelis are ruled by the Communist Party

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

3m ago...

Gaza is completely isolated from the world

Tareq Abu Azzoum is able to send sporadic live broadcasts from Khan Younis in Gaza via satellite, but Al Jazeera’s news desk is unable to contact him directly due to the near-communication black out in the bombarded enclave.

What the Gaza Strip is witnessing right now is massive deterioration. We are talking about more than 2.3 million Palestinians now isolated from the world. They are unable to communicate with their relatives or with each other.

What we are now witnessing in Gaza is very unpredictable and the situation may turn on a glance. Please guys, if you can hear us, we are talking now without having any kind of contact with the news desk and just trying to wait for them to communicate. We don’t have any kind of phone contacts we might lose this contact at any moment.

What is happening on the ground is considered to be collective punishment for more than 2.3 million Palestinians. The Gaza Strip right now is completely isolated from the world.

- Al Jazeera

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Does coining “Genocide Joe” earn Hexbear a paragraph in the history books (if they exist)?

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

“The lives of innocent Palestinians must be protected,” Thomas-Greenfield wrote in a social media post.

“The lives of UN personnel and humanitarian workers and journalists must be protected. We mourn the loss of every single innocent life in this crisis. Every single one.”

The fucking gall. xi-plz

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

More than 500 people killed by Israel's attack on the Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza. Most of them women and children. Stop this madness!!

The above tweet by Danish footballer Nadia Nadim has made a lot of nasty people very angry at her, including the deputy leader of the hardliner zionist governing succdem party who is on the record saying that "it is highly problematic to share that kind of 'fake news'. I think it is obvious to most people that nobody knows exactly who struck the hospital".

Nadim is being accused of "disinformation" and "fake news" in mainstream media who treats it as a fact that the perpetrators of the hospital massacre are unknown or even reports the zionist lie that PIJ did it.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (11 children)
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[–] puff@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Hot take: the IDF is advertised as a technologically advanced force but it's going to get absolutely fucked by peasants armed with Kalashnikovs in Gaza. It's going to be the US in Viet Nam all over again, bet the house on it.

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[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The ETIM-supporting liberals are here to lecture you about supporting terrorism.

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[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

my hope is with palestine tonight palestine-heart

hoping for many many deaths of these genocidal freaks

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Make no mistake: what is, has or will unfold in Gaza is purely an Israeli decision." - USMC commandant Gen. Eric Smith told reporters.

Nitter

I hadn't heard anybody in the MIC express it so directly.

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[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

IOF saying (conveniently) Hamas bases are under a hospital. they just can't wanting to bomb hospitals, fucking hell

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Israel is preparing to slaughter Israeli objectors just like it does Palestinians.

From The Guardian

Israeli media has reported that the Netanyahu government plans to approve new rules that will authorise police to use live fire on protesters blocking roads or entrances to cities inside Israel during the war.

According to the report, the rules have been championed by Itamar Ben Gvir, the ultra-nationalist settler and member of Netanyahu’s cabinet who oversees the police. They have received the rubber stamp of Israel’s attorney general, and will be brought before the government for authorisation on Sunday.

Before the war began on 7 October, Israeli demonstrators had been turning out weekly by the hundreds of thousands against the Netanyahu government’s plan to weaken the judiciary, with protesters regularly blocking major Israeli thoroughfares. Much smaller demonstrations have been taking places since the war started, calling for the government to work to release the Israeli hostages held by Hamas.

The war has sparked a crackdown by the Israeli government against perceived dissent, with hundreds of people arrested or disciplined for speech sympathetic to Gazans. Police have been given wide new powers to determine what applies as “support for terrorism”, and have declared they will not allow solidarity demonstrations in support of Gaza.

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[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago

Tunisia’s parliament to consider bill criminalizing relations with Israel (Al-Monitor, 27th of October, 2023)

Tunisia’s parliament is scheduled to consider next week a draft law criminalizing the normalization of relations with Israel as pro-Palestinian protests continue in the country amid the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.

According to Tarshoun, the draft law imposes penalties ranging from six to 12 years in prison, with a fine ranging from 10,000 Tunisian dinars ($3,148) to 100,000 dinars ($31,482) against anyone who attempts to or participates in economic, cultural or military activities with Israel, the Tunisian MP said.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone remember "48-72 hours"?

lmao arrogant settler nonsense

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Watching some footage of Israeli incursion into Gaza and... holy shit, western miltaries learned absolutely nothing from the Ukraine war. Israeli tanks are just moving in these big dumb columns. If this army tries going into Gaza-city, it'll be a complete fucking disaster

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (16 children)

I was going to put this in the dunk tank because a leftist account quote tweeted it to dunk on her for saying "Im happy about it" re: a genocide and people in general are saying shit like "americans are so self centered, this isnt about elections" and "grifter taking the oppurtunity of a genocide to tell everyone she was right all along and settle twitter beefs".

But then i ran it by some friends to check to make sure I wasnt off base and they were saying "no its good that she's saying that people should have realized that Biden was bad all along"

So now I'm not sure because I have no confidence in myself to to CPTSD so I dont have my own opinions so Im wondering what people think? Thanks.

Oh the tweet: https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1717976394234200250

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Israeli media: The army is carrying out a dangerous ground maneuver to collect intelligence information and is making a limited ground advance on the “border” with Gaza.

Initial reports of the kidnapping of soldiers during the occupation’s attempt to penetrate Beit Hanoun, north of Gaza, by Palestinian resistance fighters.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Looking for Israelis in Dagestan

data-laughing

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can hear the call for prayer in Gaza, but also heavy bombings. Glory to them, their struggle will end in victory. Death to Zionism.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Israeli players have been targeted with “nationalist attacks” on the popular online gaming platform Roblox, Israel’s Ministry of National Security warned in a bulletin published on Thursday.

Nearly half of the game’s 65 million users are 12 years old or younger.

Claiming it had received multiple reports of Israeli players being “attacked” in the game by players whose avatars are sporting uniforms, weapons, and the flags of Palestine and Saudi Arabia, the ministry urged parents to report any “offensive content or actors” directly to Roblox so that it could be removed.

A member of an Israeli parents’ group on Facebook claimed their child had seen other Roblox users reenacting Hamas’ October 7 surprise attack on Israel, imploring their fellow group members to monitor their children’s online activities and impose parental controls on their internet use.

The game already censors the phrase ‘Free Palestine’, as well as ‘Hamas’ and some uses of the word ‘Jews’. Discussion of elected officials, political parties, current and former political candidates, and “inflammatory content related to real world border, territorial, or jurisdictional relationships” is already prohibited.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago
[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Zionist entity, which has bombed the Damascus airport 4 times over past 3 weeks, has begun murdering Syrians as well

"Israel has exponentially increased its war crimes against the Syrian Arab Republic and of its citizenry. At 0:145 Damascene time, on Wednesday, 25 October the Zionist regime bombed several “sites” in Daraa countryside, murdering eight soldiers, wounding seven others, and damaging an undisclosed amount of Syrian infrastructure.

This was another double war crime by the Zionist criminals, launching its deadly bombs from Syria’s Golan, which Israel has illegally occupied since 1967, and with the most arrogant impunity.

Israel’s bloodlust is still not sated, twelve hours after its massacre of eight Syrian Arab Army soldiers in their own country, terrorist Israel once again bombed the Aleppo International Airport."

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)

place your bets for the chance that Israel furiously depletes their stockpile of anti-satalite missiles (assuming they have some) while taking out elon's sats and creates a cloud of high velocity shards forever trapping humans on Earth lathe-of-heaven

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (11 children)

"'Never again,' is now." There's so much wrong with that short phrase.

Netanyahu says second stage of war has begun, with goal of destroying military and government of Hamas

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Saturday that the second stage of the war against Hamas has begun, with the goal of destroying the military and government of Hamas and returning hostages held in Gaza home.

“Our heroic fighters have one goal: To destroy this enemy and to make sure the existence of our country. Never again. 'Never again,' is now,” Netanyahu said.

Netanyahu also confirmed he spoke with the family of hostages held by Hamas and said he vowed to them that he would exhaust all options to return their loved ones.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-28-23/h_066dd2b610622ffdc011b0feaa719009

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