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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] [email protected] 108 points 4 months ago

Just got off calls with my family in both Beirut and Damascus. The situation feels extremely tense right now. Our family house in Beirut is quite close to the Hezbollah areas south of Beirut, so the neighborhood will most likely be bombed in case shit escalates. My family in Damascus are maybe relocating to my cousin's farm outside of the city, just waiting to see how everything develops. Very odd feeling in my whole body right now, a mixture of sadness and some weird hope as well. Not liking this "being a part of history" thing tbh.

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[-] [email protected] 106 points 4 months ago

massive shout-out to the guy driving 5 mph down my street shouting "free Palestine from modern day holocaust", what a legend

Death to America

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[-] [email protected] 101 points 4 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

USMC Lt. Gen. James Glynn, dispatched by Pentagon to advise Israel on risks inherent in an invasion of Gaza Strip, has returned to the US.

“Make no mistake: what is, has or will unfold in Gaza is purely an Israeli decision.” -USMC commandant Gen. Eric Smith told reporters.

This dude noped the fuck out of there

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[-] [email protected] 90 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I really really despise the way discourse around humanitarian aid is framed.

Israel's genocide isn't some natural disaster. They are actively bombing, actively killing civilians.

And yet the debate is somehow about whether scraps of aid should be let in to mitigate some of the immeasurable suffering in Gaza. And then Israel or the US and its vassals block it, and somehow this is all fine, this is just a normal diplomatic disagreement here.

All of that is burying the lede. Can Israel not stop genociding civilians? Apparently not. That's not an option. In fact, we'll give them some more weapons to continue the slaughter.

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[-] [email protected] 87 points 4 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago

Epoch times is now apparently the fourth most subscribed newspaper in the united states

Most hilarious type of blowback: the empire lets its own citizens become indoctrinated by the falungong in order to own the commies

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[-] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A baby was found in an oven, baked to death by Hamas terrorists, leading Israeli first responder @EliBeerUH recounted to an @RJC gathering last night.

His group was among the first to respond to and witness the Oct 7 atrocities.

Babe wake up new atrocity propaganda just dropped. Actually cackling this is so fucking stupid if you believe this shit you need to be shot for your own good and more importantly for the good of society.

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[-] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago

It's always interesting how jet pilots dropping bombs are never called terrorists, despite every single one of them being one. What difference is there between throwing a bomb by hand or throwing a bomb by gadget? The "civilized" approach just shields the perp from consequences of their actions, making them a cowardly terrorist as well.

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago

Al Jazeera:

Pro-Palestine rally held in Berlin
Thousands have taken to streets in the German capital Berlin in support of Palestinians and to end the war in Gaza.
One of the posters at the rally accused Israel of “genocide”, while others voiced disapproval of the German government’s backing of Israel. People could be heard chanting “Viva, Viva Palestine” and “Free Palestine” during the demonstration.
The event was organised by an individual and operated under the banner of “Global South United,” according to the police.

Global south united? che-poggers

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[-] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago

bro I'm prooobing. bro. it's not a ground offensive bro. it's a limited incursion where we're probing. we're probers, bro. bro, we need to find the tunnels, and so we need to proooooobe

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago

DPRK releases another banger

The U.S., wrecker of global peace and strangler of justice, can never evade the blame for having connived at and fostered Israel's hideous war crime that ruthlessly killed Palestinians.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago

The media are calling these "welded visors" now.

When the russians did it they called them cope cages.

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[-] [email protected] 80 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The evil fuckers are going to bomb the hospital. The NYT is coming out and saying Israeli military sees it as a threat and they might also see it as a target.

Israel says Al Shifa hospital conceals underground Hamas command centers, which the group denies.

To people in Gaza, Al Shifa is the biggest and most advanced hospital around — a lifeline, in normal times, and now a place of refuge from relentless Israeli airstrikes.

More than 60,000 people are sheltering there. But to the Israeli military, it is a threat, and, perhaps, a target.

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-news-hamas-war/israel-says-al-shifa-hospital-conceals-underground-hamas-command-centers-which-the-group-denies?smid=url-share

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[-] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's interesting. Considering how Gaza is a city "ruthlessly ruled by Hamas" that, when you watch videos from the city itself, you don't actually see Hamas members or even armed people. Like nowhere, no technicals driving around with big DShKs, no people with AKs hanging walking around, nothing. It's just completely unarmed civilians rushing to the ambulances helping each other out. The city is continuously being bombed for having "Hamas targets" yet we barely get to see them in the streets...

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago

I fucking hate Germany, I fucking hate Germans, dumbest fucking people on Earth, dumber than Americans by far, holy fucking shit. We truly never moved past the Nazis, it must seriously be in our blood that we just love genocide so fucking much. The people in this country actually still defend Israel, not even the American people are this fucking dumb and gullible to their state propaganda. Unironically posting takes such as "if we give food to the gazans then Hamas can focus on their terrorism" holy fuck.

I'm so fucking angry at this country, a country full of pathetic, genocidal maggots. Stalin should've flattened the entire state, the world would be better off for it.

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago

Can someone help me understand something?

Building vocational schools to juvenile offenders so they can integrate to larger society by getting educated - this is genocide

Moving orphans out of a warzone to orphanages where they can speak their own mother tongue, and where the orphans will get elementary education - this is clearly genocide

Building a giant open air prison for an ethnic group, depriving them of water, food, and medicine, then bombing them inordinately, murdering children - this is not genocide, it's just a rational political response to an unusual situation

Azov batallion dude with the callsign Adolf from the SS brigade - not a Nazi

A literal Waffen-SS volunteer from WW2 - not a Nazi

Greta Thunberg - she is a Nazi because she has a stuffed octopus fluffy toy

Wolfsangel, Black Sun, Totenkopf - not a symbol of antisemitism

Pink octopus toy - a clear symbol for antisemitism

Did I get this right? This is what liberals think?

spoilerI'm basically just taking notes, because the mental gymnastics we've witnessed over the past few years have been truly astounding. I might read these back in a few months. We will definitely see more of this shit by the end of the year.

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[-] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Israel-Palestine war: Israel will flood Hamas tunnels with nerve gas under US Army supervision

Palestinian resistance groups expect Israel to flood Hamas tunnels with nerve gas and chemical weapons under the surveillance of US Delta Force commandos as part of a surprise attack on the Gaza Strip, a senior Arab source familiar with the groups told Middle East Eye.

Israel and the US hope to achieve the element of surprise in order to penetrate Hamas tunnels, rescue an estimated 220 hostages, and kill thousands of soldiers belonging to Hamas’s al-Qassam Brigades, the source said in a statement, noting that the information comes from a leak originating in the US. Middle East Eye cannot independently verify the information in the leak. “The plan hinges on the element of surprise so as to decisively win the battle, using internationally forbidden gases, particularly nerve gas, and chemical weapons. Large quantities of nerve gas would be pumped into the tunnels,” the source said.

US Delta Force will oversee “large quantities of nerve gas being pumped into Hamas tunnels, capable of paralyzing the bodily movement for a period of time between six and 12 hours." "During this period, the tunnels would be penetrated, the hostages rescued and thousands of al-Qassam soldiers killed,” they added.

Yeah dude, it'll be like, pew pew pew! Arghh! Another hundred dead terrorists! Wham! Kaboom!

watching the various US special forces become increasingly moronic is really entertaining

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago

Al Jazeera and especially OG Arabic Al Jazeera provides literally the most brave and real journalism in the whole world right now. American and European newspapers and TV channels are worth less than fucking dust at this point.

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago

Liberals’ primary problem with Hitler is that he wasn’t American.

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Makes me feel utterly furious and insane to see NYPD busses full of Jews arrested for protesting Israel's genocide in Gaza.

Again I don't think this many Jewish people have been rounded up since WW2, zionism is quite literally nazism

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[-] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago

Nahal Oz (Hebrew: נַחַ"ל עֹז, lit. "Mighty Stream" or "Mighty Nahal") is a kibbutz in southern Israel. Located in the northwestern part of the Negev desert close to the border with the Gaza Strip

Ok what’s Nahal mean?

Nahal (Hebrew: נח"ל) (acronym of Noar Halutzi Lohem, lit. Fighting Pioneer Youth[1]) is a program that combines military service with mostly social welfare and informal education projects such as youth movement activities... Prior to the 1990s it was a paramilitary Israel Defense Forces program that combined military service and the establishment of agricultural settlements, often in peripheral areas.

The Nahal group (Hebrew: גרעין נחל) is a form of community service developed in Israel, which combines social volunteerism, agriculture and military service. The service is divided into several parts:

The national mission period lasts a year, in which all the core group stays together, under the command of the Education and Youth Corps. During the establishment of the state, the national mission was mostly the establishment of new settlements in periphery areas (by means of Nahal settlements)

What’s a Nahal settlement?

The goal for every Nahal settlement was to become a civilian settlement and serve as a first line of defense against potential future Arab invasions while providing a base of operations and resources for military forces operating in peripheral regions.

The first Nahal settlement was Nahal Oz located in the northwestern Negev desert close to the border with the Gaza Strip.

So these settlements near to Gaza that were targeted are explicitly hybrid military-civilian installations. Militarized communes of military trained populations with the explicit purpose of being the front line of Israeli colonial expansion.

Soldier settlements.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

Why are liberals obsessed with calling leftist opinions and principles childish or accusing people having them of being teenagers?

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

Adam Johnson on Bernie's recent senate speech about Gaza.

"Humanitarian pause" for a few hours so we can get some water and food into Gaza before Israel goes right back to bombing them is an illogical, chickenshit demand. OxFam, Amnesty, MSF and dozens of aid and human rights orgs are demanding a CEASEFIRE. Why wont Sanders join them?

(This is a rhetorical question, the answer is because Sanders supports the Israeli bombing and siege he just wants it to be a bit nicer around the margins)

Nitter

A reply

He drew the line at they shouldn't be dehydrated when they die.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

The obsession with "innocent civilians" is infuriating. No interest in the reality that every war results in massive civilian casualties. No interest or awareness that Palestinian's don't have the luxury of precision weapons (which still kill tons of civilians). Not even the hint of the concept that maybe settlers aren't non-combatant civilians due to the specific circumstances of the Israeli state and it's mode of conquest. No awareness or interest that Israel is a heavily militarized state (Human shields!).

Just "These people trying to save themselves from genocide are illegitimate because they killed civilians".

And this standard is never applied except to the designated enemy. us-foreign-policy

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

Whatever happens, the world owes Palestinians a debt we can never repay. Gaza was a testing ground for surveillance and counterinsurgency worldwide, a laboratory in which the ruling class devised increasingly violent means of separating themselves from their subjects. October 7th shattered the illusion of an invincible, low-cost and high-tech military occupation. The goal was always to build more Gazas to manage refugee and homeless populations, Operation Al-Aqsa Flood has delayed that future indefinitely.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

Former German leader Schroeder divulges more detail on thwarted Russia-Ukraine peace deal bne intelliNews

We are getting more and more corroborating evidence that the peace deal in March-April 2022 was real, and painted US/NATO as the party behind that denied the deal from moving forward because some wanted to use the opportunity to weaken Russia.

I recommend reading the linked article because there are a lot more details in this story, but the most interesting part I want to point out is this:

According to Schroeder the deal would have included the following main aspects:

  • Ukraine would abandon its Nato aspirations;
  • The bans on the Russian language in Ukraine would be removed;
  • Donbass would remain in Ukraine but as an autonomous region (Schroeder: "Like South Tyrol");
  • The United Nations Security Council plus Germany should offer and supervise the security agreements; and
  • The Crimea problem would be addressed.

Honestly this sounds like a very good deal for Ukraine considering what they are going through today. All the blood shed since can now be firmly laid on the hands on US and NATO imperialism at this point.

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[-] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago

I absentmindedly had Hexbear open on my laptop, and my toddler just happened to see the logo and declared I WANT TO SEE THE BEAR

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[-] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

US occuptation forces evacuating Baghdad tonight at the airport.

Sabereen News

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[-] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago

Pull from a Russian fighter near avdeevka, cited by the latest simplicius

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-102723-ukraines-prospects

Do I feel sorry for them? No. They killed and injured my friends, they want to kill me every day. I don't feel sorry for them. Although, for the most part, the people who stand against us are not rabid Nazis, but ordinary Hataskrayniks who were forcibly driven to slaughter.

But if you look at everything in its entirety, it was they who brought Ukraine to its current state. That same silent majority who don’t care about Bandera, or the Russians, or the USA - as long as their farm, kindergarten, pigs are not touched, as long as they don’t run out of vodka and lard, and at least the grass doesn’t grow.

They didn’t care about the Maidan, about the shelling of Donetsk and Lugansk, about the genocide of the Russian population, about the murders of children, women and the elderly, about Azov’s torture, about language bans, about the split in faith... And then it turned out that they couldn’t sit it out that you have to take a machine gun and die for the interests and goals of NATO.

And then they hated us, with a fierce, terrible hatred. Because their little farmstead world collapsed. Because this war reminds them every day of their cowardice, weakness and silence. And in their anger they blame us for everything, because they are afraid to look in the mirror and ask themselves uncomfortable questions.

And we, of course, will win. We know that. And they know it. And this makes them hate us even more.

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[-] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago

Hasan dared to expose me to like 5 minutes of MSNBC coverage and it made me so viscerally angry. "Hamas has no credibility whatsoever" says this anti-cracker-aktion ass piece of shit who will later repeat IDF claims uncritically fuck you. Mainstream media are complicit in genocide and should be treated as such.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

On a group chat with a bunch of american libs I kineticly engaged with western style propaganda and utilized fact based materielist ordinance. Enemy combatant posters were neutralized to the point of asking "well what would you do?"

Thank you news thread for providing a steady supply of wunderposten that has allowed establishment of a beach head on an otherwise perfectly smooth surface.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

U.S. Cannot Halt China's Semiconductor Advance to 5nm: Ex TSMC VP says

Interestingly, the U.S. sanctions seem to have inadvertently opened the doors of opportunity for SMIC. The restrictions imposed on TSMC, barring it from transacting with certain Chinese entities, have allowed SMIC to step in and capitalize on substantial orders. This shift has facilitated SMIC's enhancement of its manufacturing techniques and technological capabilities.

I hope they end up outperforming the US way faster than anyone expected

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

Last night at Celtic Park:

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Via Middle East Observer:

⚡️🇪🇬 Vodafone in Egypt states that it will install cell towers in Rafah, Egypt, to allow Palestinians in Gaza to continue their coverage and document the atrocities that is ongoing as of now.

Work should start tommorrow.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

100% of the people who demand you condemn Hamas are a-ok with the US blowing away tens of thousands of civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki; and will get very angry if you suggest that it was not done because “it would have cost the US a million lives to conquer Japan because they will fight to the last man”.

[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

60,000 people are sheltering at Al Shifa hospital, and Israel just released some fake recording saying it is Hamas HQ.

being reported on Al Jazeera

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Palestinian sources are saying Hamas have pushed up so far that they're engaging forces outside the strip.

Western sources are saying that thousands of Israeli soldiers are inside Gaza.

Complete fog of war has descended. I have basically no idea what is happening now. I'm more inclined to trust Palestinian sources but take it as you will.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago

On the last RWN episode John made an interesting point, that many if not most of the recent famous urban and/or guerrilla battles have seen the aggressor use proxy forces or some kind of expendable troops to do the boots on the ground work.

For example, in Vietnam/Korea the US used the south Vietnamese/south Koreans, in fallujah and mosul the Americans had Iraqi/peshmeera/militia troops, in mariupol the Russians had DPR troops, in bakhmut the Russians used Wagner prison conscripts, and Russia supported the battle of aleppo from the air while on the ground work was done by various militias and government forces.

In contrast, the IDF is flying solo, with nobody but Israelis to die for the cause of genocide. Considering how precious Israel treats IDF sperm, this can't help but change the calculus.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago

I'm looking forward to the day when the US Empire crumbles to fucking dust, and it and its allies get to pay for all the death and destruction they've caused over the last century. It will be bittersweet, and the least they'll deserve. amerikkka

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago

Hasan losing connection, Hexbear going down periodically pepe-silvia MOSSAD

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago

Cant Keffals fucking coke habit blow up her heart already?

Doing tankie bad fearmongering during a genocide, what a fucking worm.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago

it seems that Israel's offensive has begun... reminds me of this quote:

"The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone -- everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the word. It has to take it off, just for one second. To do the deed."

the-deserter

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is very funny that the rhetoric of Israel's government has basically been "We will utterly destroy Hamas. There will be no living member of the organization when we are done. Our forces will enter Gaza and annihilate the terrorists found within. We are fulfilling the prophecies of our ancestors by finally wiping out the most evil group that has yet existed on this earth. We have a dozen ways to destroy the tunnel networks." and then they try and enter Gaza and within five minutes their forces are crying their eyes out and calling for helicopter evacuations.

We really are cursed to relive the Ukrainian counteroffensive again. First as farce, second as even greater farce. Israel's plans for Gaza post-war feel like Zelensky saying that he'll be sunbathing in Crimea in the summer.

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