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According to your table, it's not as bad as that, just not a good idea. E: Wait, missread that as thorium.
The highest calorie last meal
Happy cake day!
they got cake day on lemmy too?
Yep, my client(voyager) showed a cake next to their username.
nah, this is just the appetizer to a big bowl of pasta made out of antimatter.
Antipasti
I mean, you can heat any old rock & make it look like that ... what I'm saying is that every rock, when heated to 500+°C, will gain delicious orange flavour, but scientists don't want you to know that!!
I wanna taste that blue Cherenkov tang
...blue raspberry gatorade...
I wanted to say the same - that blue color reminds me of blueberry with some mint for freshness!
Evidently plutonium just tastes metallic. And radium is flavorless.
What I'm saying is people have tasted these things.
What about butt-chugging them?
Demon core has entered the chat?
Demon buttplug
I think it was when we got to toxic metals and radioactive elements that chemists where forced to stop tasting their discoveries.
I hope it went: Safety person: Hey! Stop tasting any elements or new molecules. It's been getting people severely sick or killed!
Chemist: "Ugh, fine, but ima bitch about it the whole time"
It's coincidentally when we started getting radiation poisoning. Correlation? Causation? The younger generation is so weak smh.
I can still huff them though, right? How else will I know when my reaction is done?
I believe the guy who tasted plutonium did so accidentally when the powder got in his mouth. The metallic taste probably has something to do with how radioactive it is.
Given that lead acetate is sweet, would plutonium acetate do the same?
anyone wants to help me set up a charity where we give "last meals" to terminal patients using toxic ingredients just for them to describe how they taste?
I was about to say that in the 40s and 50s someone ~~probably~~ taste it.
Fun fact: a gram of plutonium contains about 20 billion calories. Yum.
Not dietal calories.
The calorie numbers we assign to food, measure how much energy our body extracts from them when eaten.
In this context, plutonium is closer to 0
If we instead want to measure the actual total physical energy content of materia, we would turn to E=mc^2, telling us that a gram of anything has about 20 million kcal, no matter if its plutonium or diet coke. which is a slightly less useful value on food labels :D
Technically it measures how much you can heat up a known volume of water if you burn the food. We have no way of measuring how much of that energy released by combustion actually gets absorbed and translated to ATP in the body, but it’s the best estimation we have of the relative energy content of foods.
There’s some carbohydrates, proteins, and fats that our bodies don’t seem to convert to energy (or only partially convert) but still technically contain “calories” because they’re combustible. Sugar alcohols, fiber, etc.
Plutonium doesn’t combust, but it would heat up water in a calorimeter. Really the test method’s applicability kind of falls apart when you start testing undigestible materials.
Plutonium actually does combust^1^. Even worse, it's pyrophoric^2^. I couldn't easily find kcal/g though.
- ^1^ Whoopie
- ^2^ Not a great source
I did a little digging. The heat of decay (so plutonium 238 just sitting around, not burning) is about .48 kcal/hr per gram. So if we were able to convert that energy to ATP like we do carbohydrates, eating about 300g of plutonium would be like eating a twinkie (150kcal) every hour. In about 88 years the energy output of that plutonium would have reduced to about a half-twinkie per hour.
Assuming you need 2000 kcal per day to maintain weight, that’s only 83 kcal per hour needed. So, if you could survive eating it and actually utilize the energy generated, you’d be set for life on food after eating less than 300g. We’d have to come up with a dosing schedule or you’d have to work out pretty hard as a young person to keep from getting fat.
The heat of combustion for plutonium based on a very cursory search (take it with a grain of salt) is about 1 kcal/g. So assuming your body could oxidize it, you’d get a one-time burst of about 2 twinkies worth of energy immediately upon eating that 300g.
Oh no!
And it goes straight to my hips. By which I mean the bone marrow in my pelvis.
This is a commonly quoted fun fact that is not really true. There are 2 different definitions of calorie. One means the absolute amount of energy in an object, the other means the bioavailable amount of energy that a human can extract from it using their digestive system.
So every physical object that exists has some amount of potential energy contained within it which we can express in calories, but that doesn't mean it has any bioavailable calories. For example glass has some significant amount of energy contained within it, but it has 0 bioavailable calories.
This "fun fact" mixes up the two definitions, making the statement meaningless.
(Nothing against you OP, this is a commonly repeated falsehood)
this is a commonly repeated ~~falsehood~~ obvious joke
And, if I have to explain the joke: it's just E=mc² (the Einstein thing ... well, the Einstein's thing's approximation), the energy (E) is the same for all mass (m) since the c is a constant.
You get the same 21 billon kcal from 1g of apples as from 1g of plutonium.
And since it's usually well known humans do not devour mass into pure energy that might trigger ppls sense of humour.
(Additionally the idea of eating metal to seek nutrition might be funny, but we do need some metals \m/.)
Also "potential energy" phrasing is weird in that context.
There are 2 different definitions of calorie.
This "fun fact" mixes up the two definitions
It's not even two definitions, the kcal is absolutely the same, it's just used to measure two different things (mass energy vs the sum of what an average human can extract via chemical processes). I see you def understand that, but it's not a different definition of a calorie (in the same way as length vs width of an object isn't a different definition of a metre).
If you eat just one bite you'll never have to eat again for the rest of your life!
Equivalent-level of fun fact: 1 gram of hay contains that much calories too!
We need a cosmological law dictating harmful to humans = boring-looking. I mean, it isn't just plutonium, look at uranium yellowcake! It's lemon flavouring!
Deliciously ever-hot orange pie
Isn't it just that color because it's hot? Like, if you cooled those off to room temperature, wouldn't they be metallic gray?
This whole image is metal as fuck \m/
It is for sure delicious, but those who tested, never said it