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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Is there a technical reason that Linux apps can't/don't just pop up an authenticator thing asking for more privileges like Windows apps can do? Why does nano just say that the file is unwriteable instead of letting me increase the privileges?

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Some do. I'm sure it is possible with terminal programs. In KDE, you do get authenticator pop-ups.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

With arch+xfce4 I mostly don't. Except for when I do systemctl reload in a cli without sudo and it pops a surprise elevation password request gui in my face. I haven't figured out what makes it behave like that.

I use Arch btw 👉🧐 eats booger

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Iirc there are ways to format your command to get it to do this. So whatever app you're using just chose to format its command the simpler way.

[–] Vari@lemm.ee 24 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Me trying to uninstall edge

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Edge is the best browser for downloading much better browsers lol

[–] amorangi@lemmy.nz 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Edge is literally the first program I use on a fresh install.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You can install firefox via cli like powershell.

winget install Mozilla.Firefox
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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I own you!
take ownership & full access of all resources
threat actor exploits a vulnerable application that is (1) running as you to (2) access resources it doesn't need: they commandeer your system

how did that happen?

🤔

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I have Windows 10 Pro. I can alter the permissions for anything. If I wanted to, I could delete System32 and fuck the whole thing up.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Pretty sure you can do that for home as well, just as long as you aren't in S mode.

Otherwise, admin console and clear the file permissions.

All that being said, for your average user, if you are trying to delete a file and windows says you don't have permission, it's probably best to leave it alone.

[–] b000rg@midwest.social 4 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Can you delete Xbox games installed by another administrator? I ran into that problem a few years ago because I reinstalled W10 and had it keep "personal files" which apparently included my Xbox games. I couldn't touch them at all, but I had W10 Home. I wonder if my problem could've been mitigated more easily than a full wipe of the drive? 🤔

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

When I want to end myself

My Body: Survival_Instincts.exe has activated

You don't even own your body lol

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

We are not root of our own minds

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 96 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

POOF

Wish 1: Delete your self (the genie deletes your sense of self)

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Would the genie get stuck in an endless loop, trying to find the owner of the three wishes for wish 2?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago

My work laptop had a pop-up from an application that basically said "we couldn't restart last time, so you e got 15 minutes until we reboot your computer" with no way to cancel or prevent the reboot.

Me: the fuck you are

* proceeds to kill the service and process from admin command line*

Get fucked fortinet, I'll reboot when I'm gods damned ready

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

had a friend that was having problems with his PC and windows kept bitching about he didn't have permissions. he ripped out the harddrive with it still powered on and threw it off his balcony into the lake screaming, "I fucking own you!"

epic moment in my life to witness such an event.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

No, but this time the owner knows why it doesn't work. Big difference in IT.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Is the power cable connected? No? Okay plug it in, then turn it off and back on again.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

no but he had a second drive and installed xp on it.

vista was at the bottom of the lake.

goes to show how old the story is lol.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 2 points 8 hours ago

In a way, percussive maintenance was successful.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 65 points 18 hours ago (4 children)
[–] kn33@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (12 children)

Not necessarily. Linux can have files that are r---r---r--- too

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Then you sudo chmod. Windows I have to do weird shit with the properties context menu. And even that sometimes doesn't work. I run commands in powershell as Administrator. Still doesn't work.

Fuck Windows.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

It is also possible to make a file "immutable" such that even sudo rm -f will fail

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 31 points 16 hours ago
[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Nah removed; root owns me.

[–] Szewek@lemm.ee 23 points 16 hours ago
[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Visual representation of the first time I ever saw "owner: nobody"

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 34 points 17 hours ago (14 children)

If you're on windows this means you don't own the file. Go to properties security and take ownership.

The default windows configuration is aimed at old people who will call tech support when they fuck up their PC.

You can take ownership of pretty much the entire filesystem.

Windows is actually hugely customizable people just don't.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

In the basic case you go to settings and change permissions.

In the more typical case for os modifications, you go to that tab, open advanced properties, change the owner account by typing in "everyone" or your account name by hand, saving, closing reopening the advanced security settings, probably disable inheritance then create a new permission entry.

In the most extreme case, where you change files belonging to something critical like windows defender or edge, you can't.
The only way I am aware of is booting into an older windows install iso, or a live linux iso, then performing the modifications there.

Disclaimer: I have not done this on windows 11 yet, but I can't imagine the process got simplified.

Windows has a lot of systems that allow some more complicated modifications. Those are often unnecessarily obfuscated, the registry for example doesn't have to be a weird custom database, it could have been part of the filesystem or at least a more standard database format. Windows will sometimes bite you with weird sketchy systems breaking expectations, and this tends to become inevitable when you try to change stuff Microsoft has decided to remove consumer choice on.
If Edge and the account push were as easy to avoid as learning how to take basic file ownership, we might not be where we are now (i.e. on Linux).

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Except when you want to customize it to stop it from updating against your will. Then fuck you, secret code to change your settings and settings that simply do nothing.

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