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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you're on windows this means you don't own the file. Go to properties security and take ownership.

The default windows configuration is aimed at old people who will call tech support when they fuck up their PC.

You can take ownership of pretty much the entire filesystem.

Windows is actually hugely customizable people just don't.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

In the basic case you go to settings and change permissions.

In the more typical case for os modifications, you go to that tab, open advanced properties, change the owner account by typing in "everyone" or your account name by hand, saving, closing reopening the advanced security settings, probably disable inheritance then create a new permission entry.

In the most extreme case, where you change files belonging to something critical like windows defender or edge, you can't.
The only way I am aware of is booting into an older windows install iso, or a live linux iso, then performing the modifications there.

Disclaimer: I have not done this on windows 11 yet, but I can't imagine the process got simplified.

Windows has a lot of systems that allow some more complicated modifications. Those are often unnecessarily obfuscated, the registry for example doesn't have to be a weird custom database, it could have been part of the filesystem or at least a more standard database format. Windows will sometimes bite you with weird sketchy systems breaking expectations, and this tends to become inevitable when you try to change stuff Microsoft has decided to remove consumer choice on.
If Edge and the account push were as easy to avoid as learning how to take basic file ownership, we might not be where we are now (i.e. on Linux).

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Glad to see another voice of sanity regarding Windows.

If you haven't learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

If you haven't learned by now, on Lemmy the only valid option for dealing with Windows configuration and basic Windows admin tasks is to yeet Windows and go to Linux.

Not true. The only valid option to deal with Windows at all is to yeet it and go to Linux.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a bad excuse for having a shitty product.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I work in this space profressionally. Systems administrarion, architecture, design, and integration. Please take your single sentence "hot takes" elsewhere.

Windows is far from "a shitty product" or "broken". It is developed by horrid anti-consumer motherfuckers out to extract as much profit as possible from their least profitable user base: home users. Evil as hell, sure, but so is nearly every large corporation that makes shit that fills your personal hovel you call home. If that makes them untouchable for you, that is a great choice. But that does not factually impact the usability or usefulness of the product.

Linux is awesome and necessary. Open source is the only way this whole mess keeps working far into the future, and I am no stranger to compiling shit from source and submitting pull requests.

My problems with the Linux community, specifically on Lemmy, are these: Linux is not "just easier" and depressingly still not ready for the average consumer unwilling to tinker. The overwhelming majority of complaints about Windows so frequently posted here are solved problems that people pretend are entirely unfixable, or refuse to learn how to fix. For many people venting about their computer, it would be easier to direct them how to fix what they have rather than try to use it as an opportunity to push your ~~religion~~ OS of choice.

If you can manage Linux, I promise that "fixing" a Windows install is well within your reach. Plenty of problems with it, but "broken"? "Unusable"? Take a look outside at the majority of the world, or even the fucking Steam user statistics and get back to me on that. More than good enough for the overwhelming majority.

[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh jeez... you're right. Sorry for expressing a view you disagree with. I feel firmly told off now.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That isn't the reason to yeet Windows. If you were talking years ago about 7 or XP, things were different. 10 is not that great comparably, and 11 is a mess. But keep your Windows, if it's what works for you. Until it doesn't.

Dual boot for the best of both worlds (although I'm finding myself more and more on the Linux side because it's better for me.)

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago

Except when you want to customize it to stop it from updating against your will. Then fuck you, secret code to change your settings and settings that simply do nothing.