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[–] graycube@lemmy.world 240 points 10 months ago (21 children)

I think the media coverage drop off is due to her getting older (and thus more "ordinary" - less newsworthy), and due to her not changing her issues or opinions much (and thus there is nothing "new," to report). Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 218 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The ship she was planning on boarding to Gaza was literally attacked by Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla_incident

There is plenty newsworthy here.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: Israel attacks absolutely everything around it for no fukken reason, so nit newsworthy.

[–] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are not wrong, but I don’t want to admit that you are right since it’s so depressing

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I like that. You're not wrong but I don't wanna admit you're right.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Counter-counter-point: Greta is a story of violence against a pretty white girl which all else being equal would normally mean big media attention in western media. But it isn’t getting much attention because it doesn’t play into the interests of the western corpo-state.

Contrast the coverage of what happened to Greta to the recent shooting of the Israeli diplomats.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=F7-V9ImpGJE

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 37 points 10 months ago

Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

Don't derail the attention somewhere else. News are mostly about the same popular people who have been under the spotlight for decades, there actually no much space for neither fresh or cute. It is implied in the picture why the media coverage drop.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

And where are the huge climate protests like back in the day? That's what she was talking about that gave her coverage and now we don't talk about it anymore...

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 87 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is kinda like with Martin Luther King Jr. and Fred Hampton. It is very sus that they are killed once they started organising for class solidarity, regardless of colour, and speaking about wealth inequality.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago

Came here to say this.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 86 points 10 months ago

Because governments were only using her for greenwashing and control public opinion.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 75 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What is the name of the Arab girl that advocated for girls education on the Arab world? She was also blocked out by the media the second she started talking about socialism and the injustices that the capitalist system brings in.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Malala Yousafzai

Edit: a couple corrections.

She's Pashtun (Pakistani), not arab, but she is a practicing Muslim. She was fighting against the Taliban's ban on girls from education, which is not a feature of the rest of the muslim world. It's a feature of extreme fundamentalism, of any religion, not of Islam.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thanks you.

Edit: adicional thanks for the further corrections.

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[–] Novocirab@feddit.org 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Indeed, first time I hear about this aspect of Malala Yousafzai's activism. Thank you, wow.

For context: https://socialistworker.org/2014/10/15/the-malala-you-wont-hear-about (Compare also this thread, where someone makes clear that her being involved with socialism is no misunderstanding.)

[–] Mumrik@feddit.nu 68 points 10 months ago

She's always made that connection.. since day one. The whole "How dare you!?" Speech was about people still only talking about making profits of climate change rather then doung Everything to prevent more change from happening.

The reason she's not the center of media attention any more is because she's been the center of attention for years already and viewers/readers aren't as interested in her any more. Her name doesn't pull as much attention any more.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 67 points 10 months ago (5 children)

As you add more and more issues to the protests, the set of people that have the same opinion on every single issue gets smaller and smaller, until your movement falls apart.

In Germany around the same time, climate protests started to take stances on immigration and cultural approbation and also fell apart as a result.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Brother I don't even know how you plan to sit here and pretend like those are separate issues. You can't separate capitalism and climate change. You simply cannot.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's not the point they're making.

As you add more issues, then the Venn diagram of overlap of all the issues gets smaller and smaller. It doesn't matter if you think this is an obvious objective truth. What matters is what other people think, because you won't have much of a "movement" without other people who agree and join you.

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (12 children)

This is what happened to Occupy Wall Street in the US, and I'm convinced it was intentional movement busting.

Probably the same thing with the climate protests in Germany.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

New York Mayor Ed Koch put it best.

"If you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a psychiatrist."

You don't have to like the candidate to vote for them.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Its a big difference voting for someone or actually getting out protesting.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember smear pieces from German press after October 7 2023, where they claimed Greta would have fallen in the eyes of the world. The idea that "the world" may not follow the same narratives as Germany seemed to be beyond comprehension for those writers.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Germany is bound eternally to Israel because they'll never feel like they've atoned for the holocaust and Israel is THE Jewish state unfortunately. The historic antisemitism in Europe has been so bad that basically nobody can say anything bad about Israel without them playing the "oh we're doing that again?" Card. I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they've got protecting their every action. I know there are a lot of Jewish people who don't support Israel's actions, but apparently that's not enough.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 10 months ago

I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they’ve got protecting their every action.

I mean, I know what it took for me. It's a shame so many in Gaza had to die for it, but I'll never look at them the same. Changing all of Germany/Europe may take longer, but surely what's happening is just as plain to anyone with eyes over there as it is over here in the land of the Mango Mussolini.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Part of that problem is the say 5% of people for whom anti-Israel does mean anti-jewish, and the other people who would choose to respond to Israeli genocide with a genocide of their own. It gives the Israeli government and its supporters something to point to as justification, and people who don't pay much attention to the situation just accept that at face value.

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Greta Thunberg's name will be penned next to Malcolm X and Mahatma Gandhi in the history books of the future.

[–] Knightfox@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't she on those topics pretty much from the beginning? I think it really just boils down to the media (and people in general) just moved on to the next story. Greta's initial appeal was that she was a kid who was effecting change and reactions. These days she's just another 20-something that shows up at protests and people upvote on social media.

A lot of people in the comments are talking about Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. as comparisons, but where they differ from Greta is that they started with protests but were able to successfully fold that into movements and action. X and King didn't just protest, they didn't just yell at the walls of the establishment and demand change. King was the leader of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference which organized protests, but also helped mobilize voters, lobbied congress, and helped to draft legislation. X was part of the Nation of Islam which was a particularly powerful group in the 1960's which challenged Civil Rights issues in the court system.

For a long time Greta really hasn't had much to add to the discussion on climate change other than to say stop doing what we are doing. She's not part of some powerful organization, she's not lobbying governments, she's not challenging issues in the courts, and she's not proposing solutions, she's just pointing out the problems everyone already knows exists and powerful governments are already ignoring.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think she's closer to Rosa Parks - she's a symbol fighting the good fight, but not the leader of the movement

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[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 20 points 10 months ago

As a 'climate activist' she started as a parody, passionate and articulate about a hot topic but dismissable as a child. But when you start to say certain things, you lose broad appeal. You can go out and rail against the 'elites' 'rigging the system' to 'keep us down' but the moment you say the 'bourgeoisie' are 'exploiting the workers' and 'using capital to wage a class war,' you are not getting broadcast, and not being listened to by many people. People love Marxism by other terms but if you use the Marxist words, you won't be taken seriously.

I dunno but I think originally she was riding the "kid activist" clout. No offense but there are plenty of disaffected adults who dont have the media up their ass for no particular reason.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When Martin Luther King Jr. moved beyond equal rights for black people into protesting the Vietnam War and capitalism in general, he took a bullet to the face. I suppose Greta can consider herself lucky - so far.

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[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Funny this gets brought up as about 4 weeks ago Elliot Sang released a 71 minute video asking that very same question.

[–] Philosaraptor7@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems in general that attention isn't even On climate change like it was before covid. The news platforms are filled with populist governments wars and genocides. Eve. Though climate change is the greatest existential threat it's ability ro grab attention has faded

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

We don't want to actually fix the causes of climate change, that would be silly and harm to the poor billionaires.

We want you to think its your fault, and to stop using plastic straws.

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