octopus_ink

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[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Great, show them. At no point do they say this is my opinion or this is what I think.

Will do.

YOUR comment, which you somehow claim does not express YOUR opinion:

It is true if you believe that it takes more to being a woman than just saying you're a woman. That seems to be where the disagreement lies.

-MANY of these, which are usually triggered by slurs:

-Coupla trolls and a verbal attack, but hey...

-Getting jucier:

-Ahhh:

-And there it is:

As a group, for folks so convinced you have the moral high ground, you really seem to be prone to denying your own actions. You'd think you'd be proud to stand by your words.

In any case...

Take care.

And you as well. I'll be blocking you now, so you won't have to worry about any future fact checking from me.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 hours ago

Took them 35 years to apologize: (And people say the George Floyd Protests didn't do anything)

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/935886827/philadelphia-apologizes-for-move-bombing-from-35-years-ago

They also tried to cremate remains without permission from the families, then realized they'd screwed up even that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/philadelphia-says-move-bombing-victims-remains-found-n1267507

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 25 points 7 hours ago

Took them 35 years to apologize: (And people say the George Floyd Protests didn't do anything)

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/935886827/philadelphia-apologizes-for-move-bombing-from-35-years-ago

They also tried to cremate remains without permission from the families, then realized they'd screwed up even that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/philadelphia-says-move-bombing-victims-remains-found-n1267507

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29574315

MOVE Bombing (1985)

Mon May 13, 1985

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Image: The police bombing of the MOVE collective in West Philadelphia killed eleven people and left city blocks in ashes. Photograph from Bettmann / Getty [newyorker.com]


On this day in 1985, Philadelphia police bombed a home occupied by the black liberation group MOVE and let the fire burn out of control - "let the fire burn" - killing five children and six adults, and destroying 65 homes. No charges were filed.

The standoff with MOVE, a black liberation organization, was initiated by the police in an attempt to serve an eviction notice. Eleven people, including five children, died in the fire.

Eyewitnesses claimed that the victims were prevented from fleeing the fire by police gunfire upon escape. Police Commissioner Sambor infamously ordered the fire department to "let the fire burn", destroying 65 nearby homes comprising two city blocks.

Although an investigation found that the law enforcement and fire department actions were negligent, no criminal charges were filed.

In October 2013, a documentary about the stand-off and bombing titled "Let the Fire Burn" was released by Zeitgeist Films.


[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

To be spreading bigotry I would first have to express my opinion, which i never did.

Except for in that moderator removed comment that began this lovely discourse between you and I. I replied while it was still up, so I know what it said. Did you know anyone can see those here?

https://slrpnk.net/modlog?commentId=15633710

And that ain't all you can see.

https://slrpnk.net/modlog?userId=11402933

results in name calling and bullying even if it didn’t even occur.

Believe me, when I find a conservative expressing a non-repugnant opinion some day, I'll be so excited to have found such a unicorn that I'll be happy to give credit where it's due.

"Bullying" is what conservatives call it when you call them out on their bullshit. Like how we spent several years having to listen to every conservative on social media somehow use social media to tell us they were being unfairly driven from social media.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 13 points 14 hours ago

The party of taking things away.

It applies to literally anything they champion.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Thank you for at least responding to what was claimed instead of something that was not. I have some nipticks (such as sussing out why those criteria were chosen - seems pretty clear to me), but I'll dig into your links!

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago

Not saying they are, and neither is the article referenced in the meme.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

And by the criteria used for the study, their attitudes and values don't substantially differ. That's the point of the article, and is a distinctly different statement than "both sides are the same" - because there is a spectrum of folks on that "side" as I outlined in another reply.

Here is the article shown in the meme: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/biden-moderate-democrats-republicans-conservative-study-john-kasich-aoc-a9699431.html

Here is a snippet of that article:

Our findings show that concerns about political moderates — and specifically politically moderate men — are not unfounded. As America battles a global pandemic and an economic collapse and reckons with systemic racism, IDEALS suggests that moderate men may be the least likely to make a positive difference.

When broken down by political leaning, IDEALS found that moderate male students in their senior year were time and again the least likely, or among the least likely, to somewhat or strongly agree with the following statements:

And here is the table they are referring to in that quote:

Also thank you for not making a deal out of my typo, which I will now go correct.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Here's a very exhaustive 2019 article demonstrating it's not a new concern:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/kamala-cop-record/596758/

I can forgive a politician a vote on a crime bill that looks ill-conceived two decades later, or a too-slow evolution toward marijuana legalization, or even a principled belief in the death penalty, something I adamantly oppose. I find it far harder to forgive fighting to keep a man in jail in the face of strong evidence of innocence, running a team of prosecutors that withholds potentially exculpatory evidence from defense attorneys, and utterly failing as the state’s top prosecutor to rein in glaringly corrupt district attorneys and law enforcement.

At best, Harris displayed a pattern of striking ignorance about scandalous misconduct in hierarchies that she oversaw. And she is now asking the public to place her atop a bigger, more complicated, more powerful hierarchy, where abuses and unaccountable officials would do even more to subvert liberty and justice for all.

And here is a recent article about her campaign, which discusses some of the related points, including her own staffs refusal to admit the same: (more detail within the article) To be fair, it does not claim that was the only factor (nor do I, but IMO it was enough to make the difference, and it was fucking disappointing)

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/kamala-harris-what-went-wrong-1235183829/

Here’s what that conversation didn’t include: any mention of voters who may have sat out the election in disgust over the American-underwritten atrocities in Gaza; any meaningful engagement with the critique that attempting to court Republican voters might have come at the expense of turning out party faithful;

Here's where she agreed to ensure Republicans would have a seat at her cabinet, and a discussion of her Republican-targeted campaign ads in AZ: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/14/kamala-harris-ad-trump-arizona-00183578

Here's an article discussing the national strategy to target Republicans:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/harris-campaign-launches-new-ad-aimed-persuable-republicans-rcna173907

And another:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/politics/harris-rural-red-county-strategy/index.html

Even fox news got in on the action: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-campaign-organizes-target-republican-voters-touts-support-from-gop-dissenters

You can read more about it in your pick of articles here:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kamala+campaign+targeted+republicans

And ultimately - you don't have to agree. To me it was readily apparent as it was happening, but if not, I think several of those articles describe the phenomenon persuasively.

Republicans showed their asses all through 2017-2020 worse than they have in recent decades. By any reasonable measure, the party should have imploded. Instead, it compelled the supposed opposition party to move to the right to compete with open faced fascism. That's not OK.

old traditional Republicans like Liz Cheney

Just one more thing - you may want to do some reading about the history of the Cheney family, and consider whether anyone in their right mind would say "Yes, it's a good idea to put a Cheney up on stage at the DNC while simultaneously disallowing anyone, even elected representatives, to speak for a single moment in support of the people of Gaza." Because no one needed tea leaves to see that was a bad idea even without the Gaza angle.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net -5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes I do, but neither I nor the meme is claiming "both sides are the same" nor that any of this would have happened if Kamala had won:

Kamala Harris would undoutable be accepting open bribes for the Qatari government of a 747 jumbo jet which she’d still own personally after her term in office. I’m sure we’d also be stocked up on KAMALACOIN too. The HARRIS GOLD CARD for immigration preferential treatment would certainly have happened. Canada, Europe, and our other allies around the world would absolutely still be citing and recognizing the end of American leadership around the world. Tim Walz would have demanded Zelensky say “thank you” to Harris during their White House meeting.

You are dropping this as some kind of gotcha, when it refutes no claim I have made.

 

removed an extra word

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And progressives chose to stay home on election day rather than vote for someone who isn’t 100% in agreement with them on everything.

Not this one. I held my nose and voted Harris.

I appreciate your lengthy response, but I disagree with you on some fundamentals, especially but not only your portrayal of Harris' campaign and progressive policies.

I'm not donning a tinfoil hat nor breaking any new ground, nor even veering off from fairly mainstream analyses of Kamala's campaign to say she tried harder for R votes than for D votes. You can disagree, but I don't think you will convince me otherwise. Plenty of articles out there written by folks more eloquent than I break it down better than I could or would try to here.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they are just self-aware enough to not be dismissed outright, but not self-aware enough to actually change a thing about themselves and become a better person.

That really covers the whole ball of wax, doesn't it? This is exactly the attitude I have towards someone who describes themselves as a political centrist in any context.

 
 
 
 
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/37983963

An internal email obtained by ProPublica said the agency made the change to be “consistent” with a Trump executive order. But at least two other federal law enforcement agencies are still requiring body cameras.

 
 

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/19834534

archive.is link

Less than a year after marrying a man she had met at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, Kat felt tension mounting between them. It was the second marriage for both after marriages of 15-plus years and having kids, and they had pledged to go into it “completely level-headedly,” Kat says, connecting on the need for “facts and rationality” in their domestic balance. But by 2022, her husband “was using AI to compose texts to me and analyze our relationship,” the 41-year-old mom and education nonprofit worker tells Rolling Stone. Previously, he had used AI models for an expensive coding camp that he had suddenly quit without explanation — then it seemed he was on his phone all the time, asking his AI bot “philosophical questions,” trying to train it “to help him get to ‘the truth,’” Kat recalls. His obsession steadily eroded their communication as a couple.

When Kat and her husband separated in August 2023, she entirely blocked him apart from email correspondence. She knew, however, that he was posting strange and troubling content on social media: People kept reaching out about it, asking if he was in the throes of mental crisis. She finally got him to meet her at a courthouse this past February, where he shared “a conspiracy theory about soap on our foods” but wouldn’t say more, as he felt he was being watched. They went to a Chipotle, where he demanded that she turn off her phone, again due to surveillance concerns. Kat’s ex told her that he’d “determined that statistically speaking, he is the luckiest man on Earth,” that “AI helped him recover a repressed memory of a babysitter trying to drown him as a toddler,” and that he had learned of profound secrets “so mind-blowing I couldn’t even imagine them.” He was telling her all this, he explained, because although they were getting divorced, he still cared for her.

“In his mind, he’s an anomaly,” Kat says. “That in turn means he’s got to be here for some reason. He’s special and he can save the world.” After that disturbing lunch, she cut off contact with her ex. “The whole thing feels like Black Mirror,” she says. “He was always into sci-fi, and there are times I wondered if he’s viewing it through that lens.”

Kat was both “horrified” and “relieved” to learn that she is not alone in this predicament, as confirmed by a Reddit thread on r/ChatGPT that made waves across the internet this week. Titled “Chatgpt induced psychosis,” the original post came from a 27-year-old teacher who explained that her partner was convinced that the popular OpenAI model “gives him the answers to the universe.” Having read his chat logs, she only found that the AI was “talking to him as if he is the next messiah.” The replies to her story were full of similar anecdotes about loved ones suddenly falling down rabbit holes of spiritual mania, supernatural delusion, and arcane prophecy — all of it fueled by AI. Some came to believe they had been chosen for a sacred mission of revelation, others that they had conjured true sentience from the software.

What they all seemed to share was a complete disconnection from reality.

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