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[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Also, it's not that relevant but as far as I know it was never described officially as a rave for "peace". Even old promotional material doesn't.

They described it as "a journey of unity and love" as well as, I quote, a celebration of "friends, love and infinite freedom".

A celebration of infinite freedom a few hundred meters from an open air prison

yea

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sleepy Biden repeated that they were music goers celebrating peace like 3 times.

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unrelated, but I went to take a look at the speech he did; I rarely hear Biden speak in general as I'm in the EU, and jesus christ he's gotten worse since the last time I heard him. He looks like he's physically in pain and it's taking all his will to properly read the words out.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He looks like he's physically in pain and it's taking all his will to properly read the words out.

I hope so

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

And illegal drugs no doubt

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

To anyone who has ever been to a rave before, this is usual raver selling chatter. As much as I generally enjoy EDM and all of it's accompanying genres, I genuinely dislike the universal adoption of the superfluous language that was originally used to encourage people to come out and dance in areas that were considered 'abandoned' and 'condemned' to music made by people who were considered the castoffs of society. It all rings hollow when it is just rich kids at a club sponsored by a weapons manufacturer.

It's one of my favorite parts of Disco Elysium, but as much as we want to separate the dance from reality, the dance still exists there.

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it was random, not-explicitly-nazi germans who were having a picnic outside Auschwitz and got merked by escaped prisoners, I'd still be like "yeah maybe you weren't soldiers, but "

They were just peaceful lebensraum settlers.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Ultimately I would still say the blame is to be laid 100% on the regime that put people in the concentration camps, not the people who escaped from them.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I hate how they keep framing this as "omg peaceful party-goers just massacred by savage orcs!" totally side-stepping all of the history that's lead up to this day and why this attack happened.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

History only begins when the bad guys decide to do an evil

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Nazis also went to parties

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This "those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" is going really fucking hard right now. All it would take is to not tolerate intolerance and not put a timeline on someone else's freedom and you could have good foreign policy. Millions of people die for bullshit. It's fucking bullshit. And what do we get in return? Cheap plastic? Rush hour traffic? What the fuck???

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Get past censors, likely. At least enough to dodge some bots.

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Auschwitz was a literal death camp. Stop normalizing the Shoa

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

this is the animal zoo for the SS children at KZ buchenwald , dehumanization is a central issue.

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the fuck literally in view of the place where they burned bodies?

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

yes , they didnt mind ...

thats what you need to understand about the rave attendees , they are only there because they didnt mind..

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel learned one thing from the Holocaust: You can get away with it if you do it really slowly.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I'm not Jewish but it pisses me off when people downplay or try to normalize the holocaust. You show a kid those bodies stacked like cordwood and I guarantee their first question wouldn't have anything to do with ethnicity or religion or anything like that. They'd want to know why all those people are dead and who killed them.

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