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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 106 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've actually found C# quite pleasant to develop with, so long as I didn't have to worry about targeting non-Windows platforms.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's fully cross platform with .NET Core and later.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was even before through mono/xamarin

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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What does fully cross platform mean? It sounds very vague and a lot like an exaggeration.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

The standard .NET C# compiler and CLI run on and build for Windows, MacOS, and Linux. You can run your ASP.NET webapps in a Linux docker container, or write console apps and run them on Linux, it doesn't matter anymore. As a .NET dev I have literally no reason to ever touch Windows, unless I'm touching legacy code from before .NET Core or building a Windows-exclusive app using a Windows app framework.

[–] Rookeh@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

Well, I'm currently writing a service and frontend, both in C# (Blazor for the UI), and using docker-compose to build and deploy them to a Raspberry Pi running Linux. So not only cross-platform, but cross-architecture as well.

This is not a new thing either. Since .NET Core was released almost 10 years ago, it has supported cross platform development.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

True, but what I’m really talking about is the unbeatable user experience of having an application that looks and feels as if it were a native Windows application, because it is and has that first-class platform support straight from the vendor.

With that said, most new cross platform applications today are probably more like electron or Web apps.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, there's no such thing as native Windows apps for Linux, but there are cross platform GUI frameworks like Avalonia and Uno that can produce apps with a polished identical experience across all platforms, no electron needed

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Qt is my favourite, though it's not .NET.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good lord, I've never seen anyone say this in public. I used Qt Creator for a couple of years and I found the combination of C++ for under the hood and Javascript for the UI to be a fantastic way of ensuring a nearly nonexistent base of developers who could competently do both. Maybe they grow on trees in Finland, I dunno. And maybe you're talking about some other "Qt", I also dunno.

I've done C# and Java extensively as well and I would never choose Qt over them. I might choose Qt over Objective-C, however.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

QML is such an awesome UI language, the only thing (that I know of) that comes close is Jetpack Compose.

The flavour of JavaScript QML uses is very different from regular JavaScript, it's literally a glue language and any significant non-UI logic should be done in C++.

And Qt C++ is very different to most other C++ framework (or how people usually write pure C++), it feels much more Java-inspired.

Anyway, it really is a great UI toolkit if you want something powerful, cross-platform and efficient.

I suppose Qt's cross-platform aspect is a big checkmark in the plus column. My own opinion of Qt is probably colored by the fact that I was forced into it against my will and that the Finns who initially wrote the app were unhelpful and downright hostile to my attempts to customize it in ways that their customization framework did not support.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yea this was a crosspost and also just a meme, but C# is my fav

And really cross-platform has come a LONG way...just as long as you don't need UI on Linux lolol

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

Not really, even GUI is going strong, check Avalonia UI.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Or realistically on Mac. Mac Catalyst is neat but you’re basically building an iPad UI and afaik that’s all that MAUI supports still

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[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah C# gets a bad rap. I spent a decade developing in C++, and Java before switching to C# because of program requirements. Now I never want to go back.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

C# development was spearheaded by Anders Hjelsberg, one of the brains behind Borland Delphi/Object Pascal.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Does it get a bad rap outside of this meme? I've only heard praise. It's by far my favorite language

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's kind of the opposite of eclipse. People who use it like it and people who don't have experience with it disparage it.

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[–] JeromeVancouver@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have used many languages in my 25 years of programming. C# is the best.

I've used many languages/platforms in my 30 years of programming (take that!), including Visual Basic, C, C#, Java, Objective-C and C++. I agree that C# is the best but not by much. They all do pretty much the same things - if one language lacks something that other languages have shown to be beneficial, that something tends to get incorporated in a future update in some form or another, and their glaring weaknesses tend to get corrected as well (like when Objective-C mostly did away with the need to explicitly release fucking everything).

[–] roguelazer@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Poor Visual J# (literal Microsoft Java) isn't even in the picture

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sun killed it fast enough so almost nobody remembers.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'd argue we aborted before it could be born into mainstream

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

C# is better than java just because it doesn't have as much brain rotting "DesIgN PaTTeRnS" gurus

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Also, optional value semantics. I love value semantics!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A shame there is no real FOSS movement behind it (for what I know) it could do with some modernization.

[–] lexiw@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean? The entire stack is open source.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm just hoping for a more thriving community behind it.

[–] jecxjo@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I think that is probably due to the places where it shrines isn't often a FOSS area. All my corporate use was for these massive windows applications. FOSS many times are small teams making very targeted solutions. Aside from Android, it feels like Java programmers are picking java out of personal skill. I don't known what apps I use would be a good target for C#.

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[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Instead you get rotten-brained dependency injection rules.

[–] AnotherPenguin@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] VivianRixia@piefed.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TypeScript?

It is Microsoft JavaScript.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TypeScript is actually pretty nice, it'd be JScript instead.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TypeScript is only nice compared to JavaScript. It still has most of the warts and footguns of JS, but the typing system really is badly needed.

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I remember J++. Ew.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 months ago

I just unlocked a core memory.

[–] cbazero@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is a third brother nobody ever even mentions ... He is also named after an island

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Kotlin is one of my favorite languages

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