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It's the dunk tank.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 161 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Just so everyone knows, they did lead a peaceful march a few years back and the Israelis shot thousands and thousands of them.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 102 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And Israel lost no legitimacy over it, the international media either treated it as business like usual, those rowdy middle easterners just failing to get along, or straight up told Palestinians that they had no right to protest like that and that every single civilian was actually either a willing or stupid human shield for cloaked hamas agents, there to attack the IDF.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

The first headline I came across about this was something along the lines of "here's how the Palestine situation helps Putin"

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

These doorknobs don't care

They somehow think they'll be the ones to come up with a workable solution for this which doesn't involve violence, while some of them even acknowledge that the US establishment is completely backing Israel and completely fine with Palestine being wiped out of existence

Head empty

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 135 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] wombat@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Hard as tungsten.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 97 points 2 years ago (1 children)

peaceful march

They tried that, Israel mowed them down en masse, it didn't lose an ounce of legitimacy in the eyes of international-community-1international-community-2

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

I wonder if there is some kind of socio-economic forces that are the driving reasons behind the world hegemon supporting the fascist state of isn'treal? thinkin-lenin

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 90 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Palestinians should offer themselves to the butcher's knife. They should throw themselves into the sea from cliffs. It would arouse the world and the people of Israel.

Gandhi, twitter, 2023

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Beat me to it. Easy to say other people should just lay down and die I guess.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

he meant himself/Indians as well -- he was that idealistic and had that poor of a understanding of why his protests worked in India. MLK was all around the much better political leader, down to reassessing his view on nonviolence.

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[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 years ago

For context, here’s the original quote:

An actual Holocaust reference

Hitler killed five million [sic] Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.....It would have aroused the world and the people of Germany.... As it is they succumbed anyway in their millions.

— Mahatma Gandhi, June 1946

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, imagine...

Although this year’s event passed by without any violence, Land Day in Gaza in past years has erupted in clashes at the border fence with Israel

In 2018, Palestinians in Gaza used the day to begin a series of mass protests dubbed the Great March of Return, which lasted two years.

The protests saw major bloodshed with more than 260 Palestinians killed, mostly by Israeli sniper fire.

Nearly 7,000 others were shot and wounded, according to Gaza’s health ministry.

Also, post the link you coward!

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 84 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

unarmed children getting hit from 300 meters. IOF snipers were having competitions to see how many Palestinian knees they could destroy, just intentionally maiming people

'42 Knees in One Day': Israeli Snipers Open Up About Shooting Gaza Protesters

EDIT: replaced paywalled Haaretz with archive link

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Quick question what the actual fuck

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 71 points 2 years ago

they're fascists. it's what they do, it's why they deserve to die

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I knew that the IDF has a pre-set kill limit. Knowing that, I sent waves and waves of unarmed women and children at the Israelis until they exceeded their limit and shut down.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards

Checkmate

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 63 points 2 years ago

but fewer would die

fewer Israelis, maybe

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago

THEY ALREADY DID THAT YOU FUCKING MORON

They got shot, killed and injured by the IDF

Anyway slava palestine, slava to the martyrs

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“Just line up against the mass graves so the fascists can kill you easily” is quite the take from libs

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[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago

Imagine thinking liberals would care about 100,000 civilians being massacred if they fail the us-foreign-policy test

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still can't believe I've seen this exact conversation play on this site of all places. agony-shivering

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They'd be cut down like field mice under a roto tiller, but at least it would do nothing

[–] FactuallyUnscrupulou@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

It would do something. The white moderates get there peace in place of having to witness justice.

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[–] Markiplier@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (6 children)

There is nothing more privileged than these clowns who think wars can be won peacefully.

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[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They already tried that in 2018 and it got them shot by israelis. Also didnt israel killed their own pm (who himself is still fucking brutal and did war crimes) who tried some sort of compromise that heavily favors israel?

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[–] raven@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Even if by some magic they didn't get shot doing their nonviolent march, the Israelis don't fucking care, and you are never never going to make them.

Go talk to them, they literally couldn't care less.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"But have you considered being rEsPeCtAbLe‽"

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[–] SpasmodicColon@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

"oh no, not our legitimacy!"

  • some Israeli somewhere, I'm sure
[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do libs live in the real world?

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[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago

A literal judas goat amerikkka-clap

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Just march through the sniper fire because you're invincible climb the fence because destroying property is bad, and walk past the tanks, don't worry about them.

That will surely delegitimise Israel. It's not like their snipers have been shooting people nowhere near the fence just for fun for literally years with this fucking lib not even caring is it?

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Getting real tired of all these people living in comfy bubbles of wine and Netflix having opinions

[–] Graphite22@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Last time I saw someone say this in a Hexbear comment I went and checked, and the poster was in fact 16 years old.

This time I checked, the poster is an editor for Jacobin and a grown ass man.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

Jacobin to the right of DSA lmao

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[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

And at the end of the peaceful march the hundreds of thousands of palestinians would vote

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Real cosmic justice would be the Mossad hunting this guy down for agreeing with the breaking down of the fence.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Liberals solution for the Palestinians they all claim to support is literally just "lay down and take it"

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

Gosh it's too bad that didn't happpen in 2018 or anything.

[–] Melina@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ok, then let's evacuate the palestinian people and then these liberals can be the ones to give this a shot. let's see how that works out for them.

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