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[–] KbSez@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago

LOL!!! Not so fast...

Trump Crypto Rally Fizzles After Skepticism on Reserves Plan

Coins picked by Trump gave back some initial gains Monday Crypto experts are questioning the benefits of Trump stockpile

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-03/trump-crypto-rally-proves-fleeting-as-reserves-plan-questioned

[–] pickleprattle@midwest.social 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Welp. I look forward s to hearing about how our strategic reserve was hacked away from us by a dozen coders in China who found an open wallet on an unsecured PC.

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or it's made to look like hackers and somehow gets funneled to Donny.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

lol this is going down on history books as one of the biggest scams of the 21st century.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Stocks can be replaced by other stocks and eroded by taxes and regulation, new gold can be mined as new reserves are found and technology develops, but what can create new Bitcoin except one specific asic?

As far as why people would want a currency like Bitcoin with a fixed supply, Project 2025 which Trump is clearly following, talks about mandating the Fed to grow the money supply at a fixed 3% a year; which is a Milton Friedman conservative idea.

This supposedly stops the wild speculation into assets like housing and the cantillon effect, which then requires large bailouts, which causes moral hazard. As it also hurts the poor and the young, who are gatekept when trying to actually utilize the housing for procreation instead of capital preservation, causing fertility rates to fall as price to incomes continue to rise.

Solana and the other shitcoins should probably not be part of this though. That's where it is clearly a gift to his donors, who made his Trump grift coin.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 32 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Bitcoin lost 20% of its value in a month. It's great for speculation, but it seems like a shitty thing to use as a currency.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 21 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Its only great for speculation if you can find more suckers to buy in. Apparently the public are going to be forced to be the suckers.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

It's likely you already are bought in if you have a typical 401k investment setup as several large firms have btc on their books. Small as it may be, it's likely there.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Its counter cyclical like gold is. In a market crash where aggregate demand drops and interest rates fall it can be used as collateral to fund bailouts as it rises in value. At least I assume that's why central banks historically buy gold for undergoing Keynesian economics.

Bitcoin actually goes up far more than gold during QE as well in its short history, and the supply will soon rise dramatically slower than gold, as each 4 years the new supply halves.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 111 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is, I think, an important mechanism for someone to loot the US treasury.

Plenty of other people will be able to loot it also. It might not even be intentional on Trump's part. But it's a standard pattern: A massive transfer of capital into some dubious venture, followed by a mysterious implosion of the value of the dubious venture, leaving the people who were paid mountains of capital in exchange for the dubious venture-stuff smiling broadly at the mysterious outcome, saying "Them's the breaks. Risky investment and all."

Crypto has the added benefit of being a lot less traceable and somewhat less undo-able after the fact.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Between this and Stargate.

People are going to lose everything...

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder where capitalism will go after other people's money runs out though.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 hours ago

More like fascism, Russian style. Though feudalism is also possible with a strong church

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Aren’t strategic reserves meant for material resources that support industry and military that can be made inaccessible by foreign actors?

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Or materials that take a while to manufacture, but which may be needed in large quantities relatively quickly. Even if it’s not a case of foreign actors, some things just take a while to start coming off of production lines in large quantities.

Shelf-stable food is a good example. You can’t just grow more wheat overnight. Sure, you may be able to reallocate where resources are going to use them more efficiently or start converting more into shelf-stable versions, but your overall food production levels are going to take a long time to actually ramp up, as new crops and livestock take time to grow.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This one is meant to pay back all the cryptobros who supported his campaign. Still gotta get Congress to authorize funds for it, but the cryptobros have been pumping money into those campaigns, too.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Cryptoclones/clowns deserve love too, doncha know??

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 59 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Just add it to the rest of the grift...

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 27 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

First he creates his own crypto out of thin air worth billions. Then he's going to make US gov't and tax payers buy his fantasy value currency with real money? You can't a clearer day light robbery than this!

[–] teft@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

You're forgetting the final part of the plan. Take those dollars and exchange them for gold or a different currency so that when the dollar implodes you still have all your loot.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago

No, don't, this is likely to be immensely more wasteful.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 20 hours ago

Wow, a state backed scam and grift reserve. Surely this will turn out great.

[–] regrub@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

And shortly after, hackers stole the US government's unsecured crypto wallet

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Also shortly after, unrelatedly Trump begins claiming his personal wealth is exactly the missing amount higher than it used to be.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Considering Trump can’t stop bringing him up, you missed a prime opportunity to make a hunter2 joke.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

He wouldn’t be able to think of Hunter while thinking about bitcoin. Have to focus when coming up with a password!

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What ******* joke? Please explain.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hunter2

One of Trump’s favorite talking points is Hunter Biden. He even found a way to start talking about Hunter during his debacle with Zelensky.

Also, you’re allowed to say “fucking” on the internet.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Russian hackers. Based in Florida.

[–] KbSez@piefed.social 18 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Oh yeah... that's a great idea especially since Bitcoin has cratered in the last few weeks and people have lost over $2 billion on trumps scam meme coins.

Sure... what could go wrong?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

You just watch.

"Strategic crypto reserve" of several billion in taxpayer funds, and then in several months "oops where did it go? It's all been moved to several different wallets now, gosh how did this happen" and the news cycle will just glaze over it as another Trump blunder while he and his cronies pocket it.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago

Not $2bn.

$12bn.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

"Bitcoin is dangerous because it's trying to create a level of credibility to unreliable and wholly unfounded value"

-Trump

Fundamentals haven't changed, Donny. Why the flip-flop?

edit: but I sold my BTC @ $20k so I guess I'm the dumb one.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago

Maybe he gets a kickback when Russian hackers steal it.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If you start trying to buy your meme coin with funds no longer going to federal worker wages, I'm pretty sure that you're going to have a pretty irate Congress.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago

I'd think you'd have a pretty irate populace by now, but I guess not.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This can't possibly go wrong. Crypto is so stable and guaranteed to just keep going up in value. /s

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Both at once is very impressive.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 6 points 20 hours ago

All NEW!!! strategic money laundering scam featuring CRYPTOCURRENCY!!!

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is no way a crypto investment will out pace debt growth.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Have they not historically done that? Not a guarantee, but it's possible.

[–] Setnof@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

😂 the title somehow failed to mention the 2nd most valuable crypto but named all the others. Wtf

The ticker is ETH!

[–] rezifon@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You are looking at a price and thinking you're seeing value.