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Summary

Steve Bannon intensified his attacks on Elon Musk, calling him a "parasitic illegal immigrant" and accusing him of undermining American traditions.

The feud highlights a growing divide among Trump loyalists as Musk, a key donor and adviser in Trump's second term, leads DOGE.

Bannon criticized Musk's handling of budget cuts and his reluctance to target Pentagon spending.

Musk dismissed Bannon's remarks, while Trump defended Musk's role.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

When a NeoConfederate and a NeoNazi start beating the shit out of each other, I'm on the popcorn's side. 🍿

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I always thought these two fucking Nazis would be on the same side. Oh hell, carry on tearing into each other.

Hope they rip each other apart physically.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Me: "Haha. Fash on Fash violence! I love it."

Also me: "Fuuuuuuck, why does every political fight have to be a Who Can Be The Biggest Racist contest?"

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wanna be the third party in the fight whose only role is to instigate hate between the two

"Pssst, hey Musk, Steven Bannon is a convicted criminal"

"Pssst, hey Bannon, Musk's family is from Africa"

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In fairness, while most undocumented immigrants aren't parasitic, he happens to be talking about the one that is.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is it a good point? There is no such thing as illegal immigrants. He's just a typical rich parasite

[–] ECB@feddit.org 1 points 13 hours ago

There is no such thing as illegal immigrants.

I mean, I'm not saying that this isn't a valid opinion, but it's certainly not a majority opinion.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In 2025, Steve Bannon is one of the not-so-bad guys? Damn, 2025, you wild.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Make no mistake, Steve Bannon is not on your side.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

True, but you have to be grounded in reality and not get high on your own farts to be a political architect. If anything that is why he might be able to cause a schism in the magaverse. But yeahfuck him

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not even remotely. What's happened is that Bannon used to be the pusher of Trump's more deranged strategies, but Trump upgraded to a much more aligned racist who also far better represents the people Trump wants to attract to his circle, spineless Oligarchs. You're witnessing the jealousy of someone who built Trump walk away with all of his work and leaving him with none of the expected power.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s typical tactic for monarch, keep multiple fractions in a controlled infighting and competing w each other, so the king can stay in power.

Nothing to cheer about honestly.

[–] subarctictundra@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

True, it's what Putin does. Fortunately I don't think Trump has the intelligence to realize this is what he wants to do.

[–] Dimmer@leminal.space 2 points 20 hours ago

To these political animals, Machiavellian tactics are more instinct than intelligence.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 8 points 2 days ago

Cripplefight

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bannon has always hated African Americans.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Of which Elon is just African pretending to be an American.

[–] drdalek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

Let them tear each other apart, and let the whole party join in. Fucking evil

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

"Feel the hate flow through you."

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The thing is, Musk clearly has some kompromat on Trump, and he can't really throw Musk under the bus without Musk firing back to hurt Trump.

Bannon has been kicked to the curb and is unhappy about it, but frankly, Musk knew how to play the game and get the dirt so Trump can't push back without having Musk reveal the truth of the matter.

My guess is evidence Musk helped him cheat in the election and that Harris would have actually won.

Kind of like in 2004 and the Dems just let it slide then instead of trying to prove it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm starting to think no one has kompromat on Trump, mainly because he's too shameless and immune to everything that nothing can carry any weight.

What does seem to easily work on Trump is feeding his ego. The tech-bros were a realm of huge wealth and a party he wasn't really invited to. To be invited to the table by those folks and flattered is plenty to make Trump putty in their hands.

His first wave of sycophants just can't compete with the big boys that have started playing the games. The cool kids let him sit at the table now, so why acknowledge the losers he used to sit with?

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I really think it's that simple. Elon Musk and the like have more money than God, and that's really the only thing Trump cares about

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I doubt that Musk has anything on Trump. Much more likely is Trump having a lot of reasons to like and admire Musk:

  • is the richest man in the world
  • has constant attention from the public
  • publicly spouts nazi positions
  • publicly spouts anti-government positions
  • spent millions on Trump's reelection campaign
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What Musk has on trump is that he bought him the presidency and bailed him out on a shit-ton of debt, so much we can't even know what all Musk has given trump, so trump as POTUS now has nothing to worry about any more--except Musk. In return Musk gets to pocket and funnel billions of taxpayer money into his businesses (and not to his competitors), incapacitate all the government agencies that regulate his businesses or investigate complaints about his businesses--all his problems have gone away and he totally owns trump. We need only watch how "Little X" can pick his nose to tell trump to shut up to his face during a press conference and trump sits there and takes it, to know this is how things are.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I think this is a much more realistic assessment of their relationship, rather than Musk having compromising info on Trump.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it’s just that musk bailed him out of debt and paid for him to win the election, why does Trump still need him when that’s all done now? Why not kick him to the curb?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure he's made sure that he still holds power over trump, at least financially and maybe in other ways like having the goods on him for crimes. So besides what he outright paid for, a lot of what Musk has bailed trump out with would be recorded as loans, so as soon as trump tries to shut him out, Musk could show the receipts and call in the loans, which would bankrupt and humiliate trump. God only knows what all kinds of shit he has over him but trump's behavior tells me it's substantial.

I don't think it's just debt. Everyone already knows Trump doesn't pay his debts and he's spun it into a show of strength.

Musk has Trump's Twitter messages. His connections with Epstein might be able to bring him down, and he's dumb enough to brag about horrific things in Twitter DMs, I wonder if he actually did?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is weak and just sucks up to anyone powerful. Doesn’t matter if it’s Putin, Musk, Erdogan, or Kim Jong Un.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, for sure! But Musk also has a lot of other qualities that Trump likes, besides being powerful.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Does Musk like McDonalds, too?

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Have you seen him in swim trunks

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago
[–] 474D@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The question is what could musk have to bring down trump? Even trump can't take down trump. His base doesn't care, they'll just lie and normalize it.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tragic: You agree with the worst person you know.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Broken clocks and all that jazz.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Right wingers worst enemies are other right wingers.

So left and right are the same!

/s

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Lincoln Project threw down some real great material.

[–] usuarioimanol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 days ago

Let them fight I guess.