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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 281 points 1 week ago (6 children)

For people always calling the others "snowflakes" and "easily triggered", they sure do have a thin skin.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 133 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were so sensitive” is my response to these types IRL.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (7 children)

what's funny is Trump didn't directly change the name. that takes time. the relevant naming-people have to take it up and formally do it. All Trump did was order them to, and, uh, that only affects goverment things.

Everybody else, Apple included, are going to be using the familiar name. because Trump is a moron.

[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

Don't count on it, Apple and Google were both at inauguration

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll follow suit. Apple is not the company people think it is. Tim was at the information along with all the other oligarchy. I know people well make excuses like he had to and blah blah blah. But no he did not. This a a openly gay man who chose to go support people who hate him why because he loves money more.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's always projection with these people.

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[–] withabeard@lemmy.world 195 points 1 week ago (13 children)

They want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things ...

They get a government crying over the name of a body of water.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They say they want an efficient government not wasting time and resources on unnecessary things. What they actually want is a government that makes them feel superior to all the people they've been convinced to hate, in this case Mexicans and Leftists. Trump knows this, and gives them what they want so that he can get what he wants, which is free reign to exploit his position and his country for profit while his loyal voter base blindly supports his efforts to usher in their demise.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 177 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ahem. Umm, conservatives are angry that others are not calling something what THEY want it to be called?

Hmm. So.... I just feel like... perhaps, there's a similarity here. Some people... want to be referred to a specific way... but usually conservatives have a problem with that.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 week ago (11 children)

How about the rest of the world rename it to the "Gulf of Snowflakes" and see what America does

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Hey everyone, I just signed a lemmy order changing the name of maralago to gaping jizz hole. Enjoy!

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thank you for your service, sir/madam. You're already a better executive than some presidents I can think of, thinking of what the people want.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago

Are eggs cheaper because of this?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's called "Gulf of How The Fuck Does This Lower Grocery Prices"

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does this lower the cost of housing?

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 94 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Anyone else remember "freedom fries"? That's what we were supposed to call french fries when conservatives were upset that the French were not supporting the US invasion of Iraq.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s even stupider when you remember that fries are from Belgium.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it started in WWI.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/36579/did-the-u-s-government-try-to-rename-hamburgers-to-liberty-sandwiches

From a 1976 interview with German-American T. Max Kniesche, who moved to San Francisco in 1907, and worked in restaurants and cafes there:

Teiser: What was it like in San Francisco for Germans during the first world war? You were working at a clearly German restaurant. [...]

Teiser: Did you change the kind of food that you served, or the decorations?

Kniesche: Well, the hamburger steak was Liberty Steak. French-fried potatoes were Liberty Potatoes. [laughter] We called it Liberty, but the liberty wasn't there. Anyhow, everything went to "Liberty." [laughter]

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Real question here: It is titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.” - Has the Gulf of Mexico ever been named "Gulf of America" in any reasonable historical context, or is this just the usual made-up "fact" from Donald the Jester?

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (22 children)

Actually, the Gulf of Mexico appears called like that around 1500 AD, when the United States were not even an idea of a nation. So no, it never was called like that because it was named centuries before the US existed.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Apple is not beholden to executive orders... No private company is.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sopuli.xyz 64 points 1 week ago

Fuck, I honestly thought this was the Onion. Somebody get me out of this timeline. I withdraw consent for this simulation!

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Wait, that really happened? I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing. Google maps still shows the proper name instead of the tantrum name.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The president ordered it. There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-names-that-honor-american-greatness/

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago

There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

There is also no legal mechanism to require any other country on the planet to pay attention to Trump's stupid and pointless attempt at renaming it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing.

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of "I didn't think he would really do ____" in the coming weeks and months.

I was under no such illusions. He has no one to stop him this time around.

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[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Should list it as "Gulf of Cuba" and watch their heads explode.

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago

Whoever obeys Nazis, I will boycott your platform. Plain and simple.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The government can fuck right off with their Newspeak.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Executive orders have no control over non-government entities. They are just official instructions given to lower executive office departments on how to operate.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Republicans upset that nobody respects their name change? Huh. Snowflakes.

[–] bobagem@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Who's gonna tell him?

The earliest known use of the name America dates to April 25, 1507, when it was applied to what is now known as South America. It is generally accepted that the name derives from Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian explorer, who explored the new continents in the following years on behalf of Spain and Portugal, with the name given by German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas

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[–] porsche13@lemmy.today 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this what small government looks like? I thought these guys were all about reducing regulations and allowing businesses to do as they please, free from government restrictions.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

The senator for North Mexico needs to stop being such a snowflake.

[–] MyNameIsFUElonTrump@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Small dick energy.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

As someone who worked in mapping, many people don't realize how much this kind of BS actually comes up.

The map you see in Google / Apple maps isn't the map the whole world sees. What you see is what's culturally / legally appropriate for viewers in your region.

For example, in parts of India it's legally required that Jammu and Kashmir be displayed as being part of India on their maps. On Pakistan's maps it's legally required to be weirdly ambiguous, with a strange open border that doesn't properly close. The rest of the world gets dotted lines indicating it's complicated.

For most of the world the body of water between Korea, Japan and Vladivostok is labeled as "The Sea of Japan", but users in Korea will see "The East Sea". Is the body of water around Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, etc. the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Gulf? Depends on where you are when you ask that question.

This even has a strange effect when all the countries involved agree that a certain geographic feature is the border, but that geographic feature is a river. Some rivers, especially ones like the Amazon river keep shifting. Sediment piles up, erosion happens, and the river shifts. The river is still the border, but now someone has to go in and adjust the political border to match the river's new position.

So, if Trump does do something official to rename the Gulf of Mexico, the online mapping companies (and any offline ones that are left) will probably follow the rule and rename it... for their American users. The rest of the world will still see it as the Gulf of Mexico. It will just be yet another one of those funny exceptions the companies have to keep track of while displaying maps for a certain subset of users.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

With all the other bullshit, I missed this EO being made. Jesus fuck.

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[–] graycube@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Google Maps still calls it Gulf of Mexico also. And they still call that mountain "Denali". It isn't just Apple that didn't drop everything to push out a software update to hundreds of million of devices in less than 24 hours for nonsense.

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[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

This is foreshadowing dark times ahead.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm waiting to hear what they want to do with New Mexico

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[–] herzberd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I forgot that apple was a department under the president

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Use "Oblast" instead of state for every single red shithole.

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