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Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries "freedom fries," accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wait, that really happened? I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing. Google maps still shows the proper name instead of the tantrum name.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The president ordered it. There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/restoring-names-that-honor-american-greatness/

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

There is no legal mechanism to compel private companies to use the new name.

There is also no legal mechanism to require any other country on the planet to pay attention to Trump's stupid and pointless attempt at renaming it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If anything they'll just show the new name to people in the US.

Google Maps does a lot of regional fuckery to comply with local lunatics. Indians see Kashmir as part of India, for example.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's every multinational company.

My job has international offices and during stand-ups, we get things like "Hey EU needs this thing. So figure it out engineers." And we do the bare minimum to meet the requirements because bro I'm just trying to code and make a paycheck.

[–] bomibantai@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope.

I do vaguely remember seeing the bonkers border ceremony in a Michael Palin travel show from about 30 years ago. Seemed competitive, yet oddly friendly.

[–] bomibantai@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Not familiar with the show but that was definitely the Atari border ceremony at wagah in Amritsar, Punjab and not Kashmir.

Either way, don't try to equate anything happening near Kashmir to what is happening here. Those are land borders with people living on either side with very real tangible "everyday" problems to whatever pax Americana you have going on in the US.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically can I name it Gulf of Trump can kiss my ass?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'll cosign

Edit: co-sign? Fuck it....I'm going to bed

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd cosine, but I'd probably find myself on a tangent

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Uuuuuuugh....happens to me alllll the time....

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought the gulf of Mexico renamed shit was just memeing.

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of "I didn't think he would really do ____" in the coming weeks and months.

I was under no such illusions. He has no one to stop him this time around.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, in this case, he has the rest of the English-speaking world to stop him with stupid renaming. If everyone just refuses to call it anything other than the Gulf of Mexico, it's not like he can do anything about it, especially if they're outside of the US.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Any trade or boundary or treaty agreement from now on between the U.S. and another country is going to have to work this out. Yes, that's a smaller issue than a lot of others, but it is an issue.

Meanwhile, inside the U.S., this renaming is going to cost Americans billions of dollars in things like new signage, new official maps, etc.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It never will happen. We all keep calling it what it is, the gulf of Mexico. Easy.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will be interesting to see what openstreetmap do - they have an "on the ground principle" that says to look at what the local signs say when naming something, but the data is tagged with a load of references to NOAA pages on historical treaties that the US signed (which obviously used the normal name for that area)

[–] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck, is he actually trying to null out some treaties?

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure he's going after all of them.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought "we'll build a wall and have Mexico pay for it" was just shit-talking, too.

Trump has the habit of saying shit like this. His opponents will say "Oh god the cringe, it hurts". His supporters will say "Oh shit, I didn't think that we have to actually implement this? This will cause all sorts of expensive problems."

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

To be fair, that was just shit talking. He may have started building the wall, but Mexico didn't pay for it