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[โ€“] Doubledee@hexbear.net 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't this just conceptually kicking the can? The definition of a group isn't 'belonging to the group' you would still have to explain what defines that group? Obviously it can't be 'producing the x reproductive cell' since that status is not innate or immutable. They're clearly even aware of this, it's funny that this is the best they've got.

Also isn't this legally creating people who have no sex or people who technically are multiple sexes?

They're not sending their best, folks.

[โ€“] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Genuinley how do they even prove this? Like my ex is interesex, assigned female at birth but produces (a small ammout of non-functional) small gametes, like what even are they occording to this law? and how would they even know that from legal documents alone?? Like being assined a sex at birth is the only thing on the books, but even that doent always alighn with the gametes you will produce (or already have) at birth. Def some can kicking going on...

[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Their argument for your ex-partner by them is that they're a minority of a minority so it doesn't matter.

[โ€“] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've heard this from conservatives verbatim. When you point out how intersex and trans people are both more common than redheads, they just dismiss it as "Well that's still a tiny number of people."

Or in other words "My argument makes sense if you just ignore all the things that prove it wrong."

"My argument makes sense if you just ignore all the things that prove it wrong."

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"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words..."

[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah exactly, I unfortunately know intimately their disgusting beliefs.

[โ€“] Doubledee@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also to be a pedant, how would they know what was the case "at conception"? Is this phenomenon normally documented by a competent observer?

[โ€“] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

that part is just insane bullshit for thier anti-abortion ideology i think. Like nobody has any gametes right at conception right??? Literally makes no sence

[โ€“] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did they throw in 'at conception' to future proof against reproductive capable sex changes?

[โ€“] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt it. Transphobe biology is largely headcanon, they always think they got this and then fall over their feet trying to define biological sex.

[โ€“] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they threw it in because they want to ban abortion even more

[โ€“] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[โ€“] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Senator Ray Szyzm chefs-kiss

[โ€“] mar_k@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

did trump just abolish men?

[โ€“] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Damn, they're not even doing the genetic "argument" because it would destroy them. It's just vibes

[โ€“] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

Holy shit they made sex illegal

[โ€“] Binette@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

Agenders ftw โœŒ๏ธ

[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump is furthering the trans agenda by making being cis illegal