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Mine is they shouldn't have made the sequel series without George as a consultant.

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[–] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I loved everything about the force awakens, but I will never forget the emptiness and depression I felt leaving theater after seeing the last Jedi. I know its from a place of privilege that I can feel this way, but I never had another piece of fiction hurt me so badly. I grew up deep into the EU and games and it was my way to escape the existentialism of my daily life, and I was looking forward to see my fictional hero at as a full power Jedi master on the big screen. Now all I feel is apathy when It comes to start wars.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I'm old, so I'd say: the Ewoks were jumping the sharks

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The whole turning off the lightsaber in combat being seen as dishonorable by the sith. The sith lie, cheat, steal, torture, and murder people to get what they want but somehow this is where they draw the line?

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The EU was the only good thing about it, the movies were always kinda mediocre.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The EU books, games, and comics before the prequel movies was peak Star wars. Thrawn trilogy, young Jedi series, rogue squadron series, bounty hunter short stories, x wing and tie fighter games, old Republic games and comics, dark forces, etc.

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The Star Wars universe is not interesting enough for all the TV show and movies being made. George Lucas is not Tolkien and the world building was fine enough for the original trilogy, but it’s simply too boring for more content. Tolkiens work gets more interesting as you learn more about the details. Star Wars is the opposite. The more information you get the less interesting it is.

Also the Jedis are just cops/soldiers. They are not inherently good.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I would say the 60 year period that all the movies occupy are not interesting enough for more content. Similarly to LOTR there are plenty of other time periods in which good content could be made but that makes it harder for Disney to cash in on familiar characters so they don't pursue those options.

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[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dune is what Star Wars wanted to be. (I’m talking the movies)

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 6 points 10 months ago

Selling to Disnep was a huge mistake. Putting all the fabulous work of the expanded universe in the back for "creative freedom" and labeling it "fan fiction" basically killed Star Wars for me. Why make movies about Yuuzhan Vong, a novel and incredibly fascinating and creatively written species as the new menace, not detectable by the force, if you can just recycle the old movies?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

the last jedi is a top 3 star wars movie

id put it right above empire, with rots as number 1

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder why r2d2 doesn't simply close the stargates with his avatar powers (earth, wind, fire). 🤔

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

Because that would violate the prime directive.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

The first 2 prequels made me realize the only Star Wars movie I really loved was Empire. New Hope and Jedi (apart from the advanced in film making they pioneered) were good, not great.

I still haven't seen episodes 3, 8, or 9 and I feel no desire to ever do so.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Star wars is better without jedi or sith as main characters. The universe is far more interesting when it's regular people and the force users are rare or very weak. I liked rogue one so much more than the other movies. Jedi and sith and such are over powered bullshit and should be reserved for the rare deus ex machina. They are boring. Except Obi Wan because I have a huge crush on Ewan McGregor.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I find Jedi boring and have always been way more interested in the space fleet battles/logistics/tactics. As a kid I would watch RotJ and fast forward through the ground/throne room scenes just to watch the space battles. I still know exactly where all the scene cuts are.

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[–] A_Filthy_Weeaboo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I want to explore the universe that has been created; I am so sick of space wizards and good vs evil

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

For someone who wanted to make Star Wars as "inclusive" as possible, Kathleen Kennedy neglected so many opportunities. For starters, we only ever saw one Star Wars character with any disability, and they used it to portray his villainy. No poly characters, no varying religious communities, heck they didn't even have any relationships between droids and organic life forms despite the Dr. Aphra comics trying to make it clear the Star Wars universe doesn't have our level of standards for what counts as an expected relationship. It's almost as if they weren't trying to be inclusive, just populist.

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[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It should have stopped after the OT.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was so invested in the OT... and no more movies came, so I accepted there wouldn't be more movies.

As such when they came out and were shitty, I didn't mind as much.

That's made it easier for me to dip in and enjoy some of the new content. I'm not expecting it to be good, and can be surprised when it is.

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rogue One has the best score. It drives the movie like a madman. It's amazing that it's only one NOT done by John Williams. But I think they took what he created and built a masterpiece.

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[–] electric@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

TFA was the only good sequel movie. Shit was cool, don't care if derivative.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

99% of the salt involved with Star Wars comes from taking it way too seriously and treating it as way more important than it actually is.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Obi Wan show should’ve had more seasons and every single finale should’ve been him beating the shit out of Darth Vader every single time.

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[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In hindsight the only good Star Wars movie is TESB.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Solo wasn't terrible, especially considering how much the sequels leaned into the nostalgia factor. Everyone hates on it because Han isn't as much of a "scoundrel" as they had inagined when he shot Greedo and then fell in love with Leia. But those characterizations are mostly headcanon. I have no trouble watching Solo and Rogue One as the bridge between the prequels and the OT.

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