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[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago

The bounty defines biological sex based on birth certificates, either at the time of birth or corrected if there was a clerical error.

What if you were born intersex? The story talks about the lack of provisions for disabled persons. There are so many holes in this ordinance. It is so going to get thrown out in court.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 4 points 12 hours ago

What a bunch of insecure bitches must be the lawmakers in that city.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

what a stupid fucking country

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Johnathan Gooch, communications director for Equality Texas, told the Texas Tribune, “It’s a very aggressive way to alienate trans people from public life, and I think it is counter to the spirit of friendship that most Texans embody.”

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Spirit of friendship? Bitch, ya'll threaten to secede every other year.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 12 hours ago

And the cowards NEVER follow through.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I do get the sentiment, although for the opposite reasons that they have.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

statutory damages in an amount of not less than $10,000

Fuck, its a minimum fine of $10,000 every time you have to pee. Wtf

[-] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Out of curiosity what's their fine for regular public indecency, like, urinating in an alley? I'd imagine it's literally cheaper for a trans person there to piss on the side of city hall than it is a regular god damn restroom

What an awful little shitville

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

When I lived in Texas, urinating in public was a potential misdemeanor crime, but was also a affirmative defense against public indecency. One of the few statutes in Texas that actually made sense.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Maybe that's their plan, to get trans people on the sex offender list because they peed in public.

I think it's illegal in some countries to deny someone to pee.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

The penalties for peeing in public in Texas can range from fines of up to $500 to facing charges that might lead to community service or even a short jail term, depending on the circumstances and whether other offenses are involved. The variance in these penalties is due to factors such as the offender’s intent, location of the act, prior offenses, and any additional disruptive behavior associated with the incident.

https://1800lionlaw.com/is-peeing-in-public-illegal-in-texas/

That said, baring yourself in some alley may expose you to dangers other than the cops.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Actually the fine is $500 at most. This is a guaranteed civil court payout, on top of any "damages" someone may receive. And since this is civil court, you operate on preponderance of evidence instead of beyond a reasonable doubt.

This sort of legislated punitive damages is what should be happening for instances of wage theft, but instead we're using it for harassing trans people while wage theft tends to have few if any punitive damages and mostly amounts to "ok, now give them their paycheck."

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[-] unphazed@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Cool, they got a useless law to "protect" children. Where is the law that protects them in churches/camps/etc?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Why would they do that? These laws are there to convince ma and pa dipshit that child predators are trans people not a group that’s not open or openly or formally organized and consists of people in all strata of society. In short these laws are to protect the pedos in power from suspicion

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Here is the names and photo of the Odessa city council.

https://www.odessa-tx.gov/670/City-Council

Here is the mayor.

https://www.odessa-tx.gov/Directory.aspx?EID=112

I think it's definitely worth observing the city hall restrooms in case they are using the one that doesn't fit their gender so you can collect that bounty.

And remember, you don't have to make sure, you know one when you see one.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Each and every one of those fuckers looks like they're in a retail store about to demand to speak to someone's manager.

"Both sides are the same."

[-] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 1 day ago

too many taps to get to rejecting cookies so I’ll save you the click: Odessa, Texas is the city

[-] chaitae3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I was about to ask, what's with the privacy policy of that site? How can a website that focuses on an oppressed minority be so shitty about their personal data?

I'm not telling your community what to do, but this seems very unsafe und unwise to use.

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[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 183 points 2 days ago

FYI Texas has been marked as a "do not travel" state on Erin Reed's trans risk map: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/final-pre-election-2024-anti-trans

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck, I didn't realize we have a green* book

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 days ago

I think that was inevitable unfortunately...

[-] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago

I'm in one of the worst states, I'm scared about where things are going ...

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, last time I saw only Florida had that dubious distinction. They've been busy. It's infuriating what a shithole a large portion of this country has become.

[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 days ago

I have a trans teenage cousin in Texas. We're not close, but I worry. All I can really do is let him and his mom know I exist in a "safe" state and hope they reach out if they decide to leave.

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[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 154 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Despite what the law might say, there's no evidence whatsoever that letting trans people use their preferred bathroom causes any "injury or harm" to cis people.

To the contrary, there is evidence that restricting bathroom access is harmful to trans people - and cis people too, like Jay, a cis woman who was harassed in a bathroom after being mistaken for a trans person.

Even if they use the "right" restroom trans people are in danger of being harassed all the same if they pass too well: https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/7/12/trans-man-brutally-assaulted-using-womens-restroom-campground

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. The point of laws like this isn't to protect cis women and girls, it's just to cause as much suffering as possible, because that's all Republicans care about.

[-] valek879@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago

Also there is evidence that it is harmful to cis people. Especially cis women who might be queer or straight or gender nonconforming or not. These fuckwads always forget trans men exist and just harass women more with this shit. They don't give a fuck off you're trans or not, it's about control. And their especially interested in controlling women.

It's also directly tied to fascism. Eco points to Machismo in point 12 of Ur-Fascism. "[Fascists hold] both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality." Meaning it's not just women, trans women, gay men, people outside of traditional 1940s gender roles, but it also includes straight, cis men who just don't seem to be straight and cis enough.

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[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trans identity supersedes all law, or medical context, or any other bullshit justification for dehumanizing anyone experiencing any form of Gender Dysphoria.

You as a person reading this have value. Just by your very sentience you have worth. You are loved.

We will overcome this moment in our history eventually, we may not all live to see it happen but we will. I know that's an atom of relief in a sea of pain. Don't let this bullshit dim your shine.

I love each and every one of you.

[-] Gingernate@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

I used to live in Odessa. It's a shit hole. Glad to be out of there

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 53 points 2 days ago

Some of us remember the coed bathroom featured on the hit 90s show Ally McBeal. It seemed like a progressive but not so far fetched idea at the time. So WTF are we doing still arguing about this 25 years later? These bathroom nazis need to get a grip.

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The real answer. Skip the whole gender thing if it's an issue. Certainly public restrooms being ungendered entirely won't be a problem, who knows why we have it this way...

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

who knows why we have it this way...

The answer is sexism. When women started to enter the workforce there was concern that they would get "overwhelmed", so gendered bathrooms were created to give them a space they could go to that feels like the home.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So were there no gendered bathrooms in public places before then as well?

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

No, bathrooms are a fairly modern invention that evolved from outhouses, which are gender neutral, or chamberpots, which are generally made specifically for one person. The invention of the modern bathroom with indoor plumbing came about in large, male only factories, and then a new environment, the restaraunt.

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[-] felix@pnw.zone 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Any allies game to go to the mayor's office and conduct a shit-in?

Can't legally use a bathroom? Let's go on the floor.

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Shit on the floor. Time to get schwifty in here.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can legally shit in any room. I even have a card somewhere licensing me to do so. My shits are the stankiest. I can't make it to Odessa until 11/1 (i have an appointment today) but I will gladly drop a deuce directly in his office.

edit: i just got home from my appointment I need a flight to odessa if we're gonna do this

edit: I've been saving up. It's gonna be a très

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"PROVE, THAT YOU HAVE THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE, TO BE FREE" They said, shitting on the floor

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

Pop Quiz:

Which bathroom should he use?

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

As long as it's not my stall, I don't care

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I've done things like this when people do the 'trans women make "real" women feel uncomfortable in locker rooms' argument.

"So you're saying women would be more comfortable with that guy changing next to them?"

They don't really have an argument against that part.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

"Oh, she's just a tomboy, the phase will pass."

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[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago

I desperately need to get out of this state

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