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They're Never Happy (lemmy.world)
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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

One of the lawyers that defended a handful of J6 insurrectionists said they would give them a reading list to help them understand on a general level what any of the legal charges they faced concerned or what the consequences could be, or just how government worked, and because this was ''you need to read this before trial so you can ACTUALLY have a chance of getting a plea deal or even a dismissal if you can actually convince a judge you now grasp what you did and how bad it was, and you're super duper sorry'' some actually read them. And they came out of it going ''oh... I've been lied to and manipulated into doing very illegal shit by a political party that knows it can no longer win elections and needs to do very illegal shit to retain any level of power'' and similar thoughts.

But yes. If they instead acquired a smidge of curiosity and interest in worthwhile pursuits they would probably stop being garbage ass people. Maybe we need to make reading cool? Possible dinosaurs reading on posters. That's what got me reading.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

Bring back the Pizza Hut reading club!

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 46 points 20 hours ago

And the main reason they're not happy is that they got left behind by the evil fucks they keep voting for. It's beyond maddening.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 15 hours ago

I had an old lady get emotional over a government subsidy offered to help reduce some of her septic system expenses. It was the first time in a long time the government ever helped her she said. It felt good to help.

Then I had another old lady tell me she was going to die and it was going to be my fault and I deserved to go to hell because that same rebate program ended and there was no funding left.

One step forward one step back.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

But they have flags!. So many flags!

Plus, they love the Jesus!!

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 20 points 21 hours ago

They don't like to read

I argue that's the issue right there.

Reading only headlines will get you there quickly. But headlines are click bait and insufficient.

I recall seeing a study on the demographics of who actually reads articles and MAGAs were among the most that did not read.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 38 points 1 day ago

I'm never happy and it didn't turn me into a MAGA dipshit. I don't think I'm even an asshole most of the time or at least I try not to be.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Maybe you should blame others more, especially foreigners, liberals, and education. Your problem is that you’re not blaming the right people.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I'm never happy and just blamed everyone collectively, rather than specific groups. I've been around humans enough to know we're all equally awful.

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

That's so weird.. with some exceptions, I've found most people to be pretty nice and friendly once you get to know them. I would never have said "we're all equally awful"..... I think I want to keep living in my world rather than yours.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

That's okay I don't want to live in your world either

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Why not? What's the benefit of being so bitter?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

An enlightened pessimist.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Reading my own thoughts while having not written them is trippy.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Don't forget tHe BaByKiLlErS

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[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

It's a serious culture issue. Big companies make lives worse and since th big companies own the media (except tiktok) they lie and blame the issue on something else.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

I think the larger thing lacking is two-fold.

  1. Perspective. These people lack the ability to look at the world objectively and outside themselves to see the larger picture of where they fit in the world. They are unable or unwilling to comprehend anything remotely complex.

  2. Empathy. They are unable or unwilling to walk a step let alone a mile in anyone's shoes but their own.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago

oh, number 2 is worse than you think. I picked up on a talk show on the radio the other night with a guest author who wrote, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion". They're actively teaching to avoid empathy,

In Toxic Empathy, Allie Beth Stuckey argues that empathy has become a tool of manipulation by left-wing activists who bully people into believing that they must adopt progressive positions to be loving. She explores the five most heated issues through which toxic empathy is deployed: abortion, gender, sexuality, immigration, and social justice.

This is what fills the airwaves around here of which a lot of elderly and rural citizens are inundated with daily.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

On 1, someone pointed out to me that a lot of people who are susceptible to MAGA are people who don't know what it is to be an expert on something.

They don't have PhDs and MDs and JDs in their social or peer groups. They assume everyone's knowledge of complex things is as superficial and uncertain as their own; literally they do not recognize the difference between things stated as fact versus things stated as opinion. Their day-to-day practice, as far as anything complex, is to let their emotions rule; practice makes perfect.

The thing they exercise most is their amygdala, and that's why conservatism causes an enlargement of the amygdala.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

MAGA is popular for the same reason other nationalist, fascist movements have risen over the course of modern history: as a response to Capitalist decay. MAGA isn't popular for genetic reasons, intellectual inferiority, or other reasons like that, but as a common class interest. All of the descriptors in the OP are consequences of the driving factor of class interests, not the drivers themselves.

Fascism is most often represented as an alliance between the Petite Bourgeoisie and Bourgeoisie proper, driven by the Petite Bourgeoisie, as monopolization of Capital results in competition becoming more and more difficult, and the Petite Bourgeoisie faces Proletarianization. To prevent the Petite Bourgeoisie from joining the Proletariat in solidarity, the Bourgeoisie proper turns their hatred against the Proletariat and Lumpenproletariat.

What does this all mean, in practical, American terms? Small business owners, landlords, ie the "middle class," is shrinking in power, so the Small Business Owners are aligning with billionaires like Musk and Bezos against immigrants, workers, unhoused peopled, gender/sexual minorities, women, ethnic minorities, and more.

How do we fix this? Grow the Petite Bourgeoisie and restore their position? Absolutely not! That's when fascism is established. Trying to "turn the clock back to the good old days" results in dramatic reductions in worker rights and a solidification of power.

What we need to do is establish Socialism. A victory of the Proletariat, a folding of the large monopolist syndicates into the public sector so they can be centrally planned for the public good, rather than privately planned for profit, is the way forward. This is the way to escape fascism's rise. This is the way to defeat MAGA.

I recommend reading the book Blackshirts and Reds, fascism's irrationality has rational, material origins, that can be understood and defeated, and it isn't in the "marketplace of ideas."

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Genuine question from someone socialism curious: my understanding of petite bourgeoisie was they were upper class but non capital owners, like doctors and lawyers, but i guess business owners and landlords fit too. But Trump's support is largely non college educated white men. When I think of a Trump supporter I think a mechanic in Pennsylvania. I am thinking of the majority of teamsters based on their internal poll. To put a finer point on it, fascism under Trump seems to be driven by the proletariat. The petite bourgeoisie, if anything, is solidly in the Harris camp precisely because of its concern about fascism.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

America is a bit unique, it's made up nearly entirely of Labor Aristocracy, ie beneficiaries of Imperialism.

The Petite Bourgeoisie are Capital Owners that must labor, small business owners and the like. The lack of college education doesn't mean they won't be held back from becoming business owners, and the dominance among the religious and white is because of fascism's cultural characteristics, explained in the first chapter of Blackshirts and Reds.

Fascism can also be described as Imperialism turned inwards.

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[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Sounds like a basket of deplorables to me.

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[-] auzy@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

You're not wrong.

These are the same people onsite who never take responsibility.

Also, they're willing to listen to children. Literally saw one yesterday comment on Facebook repeating the "kamala," nonsense.

Seriously, they act like children.. Their dictator is literally a child, and no body in high school even would act this way

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Weird shitheads.

My daughter calls them trumpy grumpies and I thought it was a good name.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

i appreciate that you held on to that naive but optimistic assumption, Vivian.

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