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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 124 points 1 month ago

I think the vines in the second photo are kudzu tho

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

Kudzu is some wild stuff, one vine tendril grows a foot a day and it kills entire forests.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Maybe we could start rolling it up into balls and burying it for carbon sequestering. I mean it's just an incredible nuisance otherwise.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

That's a good idea, then we invest in our future with oil.

That would require a massive and expensive effort, no chance that bill would pass regardless of the jobs it would create.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I think that would make coal. Oil is made by algal anr plankton blooms, which we are also making.

Both also need heat, pressure, and time to form, so synthetic carbon products are certainly chearper.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Definitely. OP is clueless.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

English Ivy happily spreads too and will also smother natives.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah but it won't grow in the sun.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 month ago

My yard begs to differ.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

English ivy may grow better in Kentucky soil than Kent chalk, but I'm not familiar with that in the way I am kudzu.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Oh in that case Kakugo shiro

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 92 points 1 month ago
[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 month ago
[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 month ago

It's like wallpaper, but peelable.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Environmentally friendly peelable wallpaper

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 8 points 1 month ago

Depends on adhesive and era but today mostly yes

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[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Mrs. Doubtfire voice "Hellooo!"

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

Kudzu was the last bioweapons unit of the Union army in the US civil war. It never surrendered, it is still fighting the American South, and winning the guerilla war.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I wish it luck on the south.

-Californian

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of tumbleweeds, which may as well be a Soviet bioweapon.

[-] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago

I'll leave this here, as I'm particularly bothered by the weird megamyth of kudzu in the US, as is evidenced but the other comments.

English ivy is actually a generally bigger threat but it never gets any real attention.

I will concede that the image above is kudzu tho.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/true-story-kudzu-vine-ate-south-180956325/

[-] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 32 points 1 month ago

Playing whack a mole with my neighbours ivy. Keeps popping up on my side of the fence. Fuck whoever brought it to Australia.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 month ago

I'm playing whack a mole with my own ivy. Fuck the prior house owners for letting it get out of hand. I got all of it from the trees and the side of the house but it always grows back. I'm still finding sprouts from thick woody vines that have been there forever apparently. I tried removing it from the fence but realized very quickly that it's the only thing holding it together. 😒

And fuck the English for bringing it over (we both know it was them, even their plants are colonizers).

[-] sevan@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Same. I have a fence that's barely still standing now that I removed the ivy. I've been pulling it and spraying it for several years now. I know I'll never win, but I'm doing my best to keep it in check. The most painful part is when I go to garden centers and see it for sale. It makes me want to cry.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

The most painful part is when I go to garden centers and see it for sale.

"Buy it for life!"

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[-] QuantumStorm@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago
[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

IIRC a lot of it has at some point been sprayed with super toxic herbicide to try and kill it off.

Don't quote me on that though I'm just quoting a Wendigoon video from memory

[-] Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

It's difficult to eat your way through an invasive species. Himalayan Balsam is also edible but it's thriving in the UK.

In fact edibility is often the reason these things are so invasive, it's why American Signal crayfish are over in the UK.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Texas: Hold my beer.

https://www.chron.com/life/wildlife/article/lionfish-texas-gulf-19717247.php

(Also Texas: Have you tried hunting the kudzu from a helicopter using automatic weapons?)

[-] Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I've seen someone collecting lionfish, basically using a litter picker and a bag.

[-] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

Because Crake is saving it for some special project at Rejoov.

[-] QuantumStorm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I hate (and am terrified) that I understood this reference. That series is horrifying.

[-] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Kudzu CONSUME

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Nah it’s pretty intent on covering the whole of England too tbh. Good for the bees in September tho ☺️

[-] Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Near rivers it has to contend with Himalayan Balsam, and the bees love that stuff too.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah I quite like the ol’ Himalayan balsam to be honest - very popular with the bumble bees. Gets a bad rap in the uk because it’s supposedly ‘invasive’, but I take rather a dim view of that kind of talk to be sure.

[-] Egg_Egg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

They do destroy biodiversity but at least they are pretty and won't fuck you up like Giant Hogweed.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And you can eat it (as long as you don't eat too much in case you fuck your kidneys)

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[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago
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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Kudzu is Chinese arrowroot tho?

~~Science~~ uninformed memes

[-] flora_explora@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

Apart from what others commented on these being two entirely different species, there might be other factors at play as well.

Lianas and vines are pretty common and very diverse, especially in tropical forests. They are usually found as part of the upper canopy and if there is a tree fall, they manage to fill this gap pretty quickly. The trees grow more slowly, but will manage to establish themselves eventually, filling up that gap. But if you cut down an entire forest, trees have a much harder time to establish themselves because the whole ground is just covered in these fast growing lianas or vines. There are studies that look at exactly that, how lianas inhibit forest regrowth.

So, how overgrown with lianas or vines a certain habitat is, is very much dependent on the disturbance of this habitat.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Verbascum thapsus in Europe (nice medicinal plant):

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Verbascum thapsus in Hawaii (alien mutant invasion):

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