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An Austrian surgeon allegedly let his teenage daughter drill a hole in a patient's skull.

Following a forestry accident in January, a 33-year-old man was flown by air ambulance to Graz University Hospital, Styria, southeastern Austria, with serious head injuries, according to Kronen Zeitung, an Austrian newspaper.

He needed emergency surgery, but the doctor allegedly let his 13-year-old daughter take part in operating on him.

The newspaper reported that she even drilled a hole in the patient's skull.

While the operation was said to have gone off without issue, the patient is still unable to work and investigations by the Graz public prosecutor's officer against the entire surgical team are continuing.

It wasn't until April that an anonymous complaint was logged to the public prosecutor's office about the allegations, the newspaper reported.

The alleged victim initially learned about the case in the media before later being told by authorities he was a witness in an investigation.

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 142 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Jfc, having the girl in the room at all is a liability, let alone letting her touch the patient.

I hope this guy's malpractice lawyer has good heart meds.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Damn bro, women can be surgeons too. It's not 1890 anymore.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Women can indeed. Not so sure about 13 year old girls.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In all fairness, I think it was a joke.

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

We would want to hope so

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So many people not getting that lol

[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Sarcasm doesn't translate well amongst strangers via text, it's why we've got shortcuts like "/s" everyone should use

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 98 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I dont get how the surgeon thought this was okay. When I have a regular check up I have to give permission for a student doctor to simply sit in on my appointment.

Having a 13 year old drill a hole in your head is waaay beyond that. I hope that doctor has their liscence revoked. They clearly don't give a single fuck about their patients.

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When "Bring Your Child to Work Day" goes wrong.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 years ago

Technically, it went really well.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Aeroflot 593

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (10 children)

My understanding is that the drill is fixtured in position in procedures as delicate as this, so that it really can't move and drill anywhere except where it needs to. Likely why Dad thought (wrongly) that it was harmless.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was thinking this as well. Headlines, no matter the story, are frequently meant to rage bait people.

Is it pretty messed up? Yeah, I'd say that meets the definition. Was the guy actually in danger? Idk? I'm not a rocket scientist.

Edit: Side note, I just saw a "cranial fixation system" for the first time where I work about a week ago. I do not work in a medical field so this is just a really strange coincidence. I won't be elaborating on my career.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

Was the guy in any danger?

He was receiving emergency brain surgery.

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[–] anton2492@lemmy.nz 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The last time I remember children being invited to a high-intensity workplace ended up with them fatally crashing an airplane with 75 people on board.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Whilst this is absolutely true, I think it's more constructive to focus on the failure in design that led to the confusion in the cockpit.

There is no doubt that children in the cockpit contributed to the incident, but that incident could have happened with some other distraction.

The failure for the aircraft to correctly notify the pilot of the change in autopilot configuration was clearly very dangerous.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These are the policies of take-your-daughter-to-work day. The doctor's hands were tied.

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[–] giriinthejungle@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

I missed this in the news, then saw link refers to Kronen Zeitung report which is not a great newspaper to cite so thought for sure it cannot be entirely true? But it is! And here another link from Die Presse (google translate works fine here) which tells us it was not a jerk dad who brought his kid to drill holes but an idiot mom.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Bring your kid to work day?

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

When the hands on experience goes too far

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I mean we called this an apprenticeship for a thousand years or so, right?

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

There's a reason we call neurosurgery the arts and crafts department.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm confused why she was there in the first place

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lucky, I didn’t get to drill holes during take your kid to work day

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