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[-] JayTwo@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

I hate to call everything gaslighting but it fucking sucks to be called a conspiracy theorist for half a goddamn decade and then one day, all of a sudden that thing I was saying and getting shat on for is now "common knowledge" and the fact that it wasn't treated as such until a specific point in time, gets tossed down the memory hole.

This isn't the first time it's happened which is why I'm assuming everyone is going to soon claim they always knew Biden didn't have full control of his faculties despite not being at that point just yet.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

this is ALWAYS how the "conspiracy theorist" name-callers act

they drag you through the mud until one day you're proven right and then it's "well duh idiot, everyone already knew that"

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Makes me think of every single coup that gets pointed out as having all the hallmarks of being a CIA operation and then turns out to have been one decades later...

In 15 years it's gonna be common knowledge that the Uyghur thing was a psyop zenz and the people yelling at me now will pretend they always knew and that it doesn't matter because it's not something they do anymore and that [insert new psyop here] totally isn't an op.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago
[-] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder if this is the stuff that pushed Lenin over the edge

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

I wonder if he ever would have gotten anything done if he had access to chuds on the internet. Probably would have had a stroke 20 years earlier.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Makes me wish I had my own newspaper so I can write the headline "You were stupid then, you'll be stupid in the future" about people not listening to reason or even believing their own eyes and ears, and then republishing that headline every few years. Perhaps open and repeated mockery will finally get through.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

We knew in 2020. It was an open joke. His eye exploded during a debate. He had to be herded around like an old arthritic Labrador. The party and the media colluded to hide it but a cursory investigation would have yielded dozens of results, direct video feeds, of his brain and mouth out of sync.

[-] ComradePlatypus@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

His eye exploded during a debate.

He definitely had dementia in 2020 and shouldn't have been a candidate then. But weirdly a sub-conjunctival haemorrhage (eye spontaneously bleeding) while dramatic looking is surprisingly common and benign. I've known young people who got them from coughing or sneezing too hard.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I think it's more of a "look at the state he's in" thing rather than specifically about the eye

[-] ComradePlatypus@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but that's my point. There's a certainly lot of evidence about how frail Biden is, like videos of falls etc. That and how demented he is.

But an eye spontaneously bleeding during a debate while looking bad is actually a mild thing. It happens when blood pressure spike suddenly (stress or even sneezing can do it). It could have happened to anyone, Trump, Bernie, Pete Buttgieg, John Delaney and is not a good indicator of overall general health.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I agree that it could have happened to anyone, but its importance and severity were elevated specifically because it was Biden. People saw him dying in front of them and just tacked it on as another sign of his poor health. Which is really just another reason why the DNC shouldn't have rigged it for him, but apparently their media control was good enough to get a good chunk of the country to believe he didn't have dementia in the first place.

[-] ComradePlatypus@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree, optics wise having a conjunctival bleed when you're trying to pretend you are not too old is bad timing (great comedic timing though). Just like saying only god could make you drop out and then getting covid19.

I'm just saying human bodies are funny things and that your eye spontaneously filling with blood is humorously both benign and the kind of meaningless thing that can just happen.

Had it happened to someone like Jeremy Corbyn for example, you'd get endless articles about how medically unfit he is, which would be false. (For reference this happened in September 2019 when Biden was still demented but not the shambling husk he is today).

[-] danisth@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Anyone calling out his mental decline in 2020 was accused of being a Russian bot and that whole discourse was silenced outside of places like this.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

No that only happened after the ratfucking on super Tuesday. Before that everyone was on board with the sundowning jokes, and suddenly libs turned on a dime

[-] Ishmael@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

We pointed out his insane rants about Corn Pop and leaving the record player on for your baby, and the libs told us to stop making fun of his stutter.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

about kids at the pool running their hands on his hairy legs

[-] crime@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

yeah i remember saying in 2020 that his whole campaign constituted elder abuse

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

whywhywhywhywhy was a pretty big one too, not to mention Cornpop

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

they didn't poll swing states for TWO ENTIRE MONTHS

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Well, TBF that was the Biden campaign specifically fucking up. The democrats trying to get rid of him clearly knew what was going on in swing states.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

good point, I'm just continually outstripped at imagining how incompetent this whole cohort of grifters can be

[-] DerRedMax@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I think you kinda answered your own question.

If you’re using the metric of “saving democracy” or “doing what’s best for the country” then yes they’re extremely incompetent.

But, if you’re ranking them based on how long they’ve been able to keep their grift going then they become very competent indeed.

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry, he didn't meet with his own party members regarding legislation for two and a half fucking years of his term? How the fuck was every member of that caucus not broadcasting that from the stands? I understand Biden and his advisors keeping it quiet, but if you're looking to create an opening for more influence for yourself as a Dem how do you not take a crack at that?

[-] flan@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

The democrats are a bunch of risk averse cowards so why would anyone stick their neck out like that?

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

They want to be the worst stereotype of a Soviet apparatchik soo bad but the structural pressure of capitalism forces them to be lizard people instead

[-] CaliforniaSpectre@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Honestly holy shit, he really has been a zionist-freak figurehead this whole time hasn't he.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

For months before the debate, Biden’s advisers responded angrily to suggestions that Biden was deteriorating, telling critics in private conversations that their concerns were overblown and were playing into Republican critiques.

They must have assumed that if he had at least a serviceable debate - they could drag his half-dead body (with its malfunctioning brain) to the convention and get the nomination.

[Smith, the congressman from Washington,] described the strategy as, “ignore the problem, nothing to see here, and run out the clock.”

This made me laugh...

In a news conference closing out the summit, he referred to his vice president as “Vice President Trump.” Sullivan, the national security adviser, pressed his hand to his face. Secretary of State Antony Blinken flinched.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Blinken, like Biden, deserves every second of this shit

[-] NapoleonBlownApart@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Blinken is the president in all the ways that matter right now.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

I've been saying this for a while now lol

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

he was never going to get the nomination.. it's all just a big ruse

[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

They only effectively hid it from idiots.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Hid what? His stutter????? Ableist much? smuglord

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Lmao he didn't meet with the dems to pass bills for 3 years. How presidential. Did Trump beat him on this?

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

we finally beat medicare

[-] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Will never forget everyone in the DNC primary dropping out at the same time and endorsing Biden

lol democracy. Honestly it’d be so much better if they just gave up on this charade and were better about saying the quiet part out loud

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Whom among us hasn't spent 2.5 years in the gooncave after 2021 instead of doing the job we're getting a paycheck for?

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago

"Land of Confusion," Genesis (1986)

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

The media elected Biden, plain and simple

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

"The congressional democrats were particularly confused because they were actually students who'd only just been calling Biden a nerd; they were no less confused when the much less incoherent Pelosi picked up the pace and also began trying to convince them to pass an infrastructure bill"

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