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Some of us left it behind quite awhile ago:-).
The problem is that a fuckton of the web is SEO poisoned, so even a better search engine will find garbage because for a lot of subjects garbage is all that’s available.
The best chef in the world can’t turn shit into anything you want to eat.
This is what they want you to think but they're hardly even trying. Google is shitty on purpose because if initial search results are bad, you "engage" more and see more ads. And since they're not worried about competition because google is the default search nearly everywhere -- most people don't even know there are alternatives, google is synonymous with search -- they can enshittify their search as much as they want. https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/
That's what I enjoy about kagi: because I can block and rank sources, I get to do some reverse-SEO, and the results are really good with remarkably few adjustments.
DuckDuckGo is just Bing.
It's not just Bing. They added an animal mascot. :-D
Explains why it so good for finding porn
Tbf, it's not hard to find porn on the internet:-D.
Sometimes it's hard not to
See, you found a phrase that you could use to get you started already!?:-P
In terms of results, yes. But at least there's no ads, nor sponsored results, nor bloody AI crap.
Please explain
Nice. Downvoted for asking for more information.
It's powered by Bing. That's all. Compare DDG results with a private Bing session.
So, it uses Bing to some extent, I'll take that. But it's not entirely Bing.
Even if a large part of DDG relies on Bing doesn't mean they are the same. That's an oversimplification at least.
To a great extent. To the point that search results are identical.
Since the entire topic is about the quality of results, the comparison is quite valid.
Also Quant, Ecosia, Startpage
What do you like about those over searx?
I love searx but it's slow 🙁
Apologies if you already know this but there are tons of different instances of searx hosted by different people.
It's possible the speed issue is related to the specific instance you tried, do you remember what it was?
Here is the list of all them: https://searx.space/
As I type this I realize I'm probably just not sensitive to slowness since I use tor for all my browsing lol
I self-hosted it, and used it for years and liked it. But the results take 3, 4, 5 seconds to come in as you wait for it to run the search on all the different engines. I just tested searx.be above and found the same thing.
When I use any other search engine, I get results in half a second or less. I know it's only a few seconds but it's definitely noticeable when you use a different search engine.
I see, sorry for the assumption.
This is precisely why I don't use searx.
I just want to quickly find shit, not maintain a list of instances that all have slightly different functionality and frontends.
Qwant is the best one by far, imo
im using ecosia rn
Doesn't that just use Bing?
Yes. Go ahead and find a free Google alternative that doesn't.
Brave search https://www.pcmag.com/news/brave-search-doesnt-use-bing-anymore
i think so, but the results are in any case mostly okay in my experience, and they have an AI feature that ACTUALLY WORKS since it just summarizes relevant parts of wikipedia articles and links you to the precise sections it used.
Yes, but I use it over Bing because Bing filters most of its news articles through MSN and then pressures you to download the app. Either way, both are giving me better results than Google at this point.
DuckDuckGo has AI now.
Oh fuck!
Looks like you can turn it off though - https://duckduckgo.com/settings#aifeatures.