I have a half assed argument against hunting, and it's mostly my being a picky ass. Most of the time, the game around here, you get better meat from the store. So people just let it sit in their freezer and it ends up going to waste. Which reminds me, I have some moose ass in my freezer I gotta eat.

Just because something happens on its own in nature doesn’t mean it’s a good thing per se - for instance, I prefer the warmth of my heated house over the "natural" cold temperatures of the winter months. That’s the famous "appeal to nature" fallacy right there.

Also, like others already pointed out, hunting deer is only necessary because we eradicated most of their natural predators. Making the case for hunting today in order to fix a problem hunting created in the past feels oddly circular to me.

Crazy ape comment aside (i'd put it closer to apes with delusions of grandeur but that's just me), not shooting guns and allowing hunting aren't mutually exclusive.

Especially given all the hunting that happened pre-gun.

I don't know if it's on purpose but your answer seems to be ignoring a lot of the realities of how the things you are proposing would work (or not work, as the case may be).

You must be exhausted after all those huge jumps in logic and reasoning.

What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people that hunt even here in Germany.

Americans don't have a monopoly on hunting.

Not sure if you're American or not but here's a question for you. These bald eagles are allegedly dying from lead poisoning from eating creatures shot by lead bullets/pellets. This must mean they are scavenging. Yes, I know bald eagles do that a lot but they also kill their own prey. So why aren't vultures dying of this lead poisoning. Vultures only scavenge so it should happen much more often.

Here's another thought. 80% of eagles brought into a clinic may be dying of lead poisoning but that 80% is part of a small number overall. Notice they never say how many eagles are brought in.

Here's another thought for you: When someone says such and such is the fastest growing demographic for such and such a thing, it could just mean that there were very few such incidences. 2 such incidences occurred when there used to be just one. WOW! Hundred percent increase? Such incidences have DOUBLED!

Don't let Rita Skeeter twist your thoughts. Get the whole story.

This is untrue, gastroliths are associated only with birds that eat plants. They grind up food, which isn’t necessary for meat. Eagles eat bullets from animals that have either been shot and abandoned, lost, or had parts of them discarded as zqxwas pointed out.

Don't know what they do over there, but we usually get the lungs and guts out as soon as possible in order to keep the meat from spoiling. Long lived predators that likes to scavenge can develop lead poisoning from those remains if it's their main source of food.

If confusing with rocks was the main source you'd expect it to be just as common in other birds.

I don't know, humans are good at diverging from their instincts when it comes to letting sick people die, but when it comes to killing less, they cannot anymore?

I think that low-ass standards are what prevent humans from getting any better, if you start justifying mindless murders as "just instinct" then of course people will be fine with it. And funnily enough, that's one of the main arguments that hunters use, saying that they're just doing something "natural".

... bang bus murder ape

Adding that into my book of wonderful phrases.