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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

On the "Europeans" side that's at least 2 decades out of date.

The expresso coffee part is still true in a good part of Europe, but pretty much everywhere in it nowadays only a small fraction of people smoke and even those who do can't actually do it inside a coffee shop because they're not allowed to smoke there anymore, which spoils a great deal of the enjoyment of having a morning coffee.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago

I live in Germany and work with Turks, Poles, Ukrainians, Romanians, a Greek and a Slovenian. This meme is accurate for all of us. Weekends are a different story of course but in my experience this is indeed the true business day continental breakfast.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is it? I was just in London a couple months ago, the amount of people smoking and vaping there was honestly shocking.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

I grew up in the 1980s and trust me it's a microscopic fraction of what it used to be. You used to be able to cut blocks out of the air. If you sat at the back of a cinema you would be lucky if you were able to see the screen through all the haze. That's all gone now.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

As a fraction of the total it's still a small percentage, unless things changed a lot in the 5 years since I moved out of there.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but not in the balkans. Went to Bosnia and was served an espresso and a cigarette as an addition to breakfast. It was even on the menu. I should mention that i only asked for a coffee.

[–] Datz@szmer.info 4 points 2 months ago

It was a culture shock that you can smoke indoors there, especially since I hate smoking.

[–] insomniac199@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Wonder what's so good about coffee and cigarettes combo

[–] PrincessTardigrade@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Former smoker here. The flavor combo is amazing, and both act as stimulants, and I could get my fix for both addictions in one go.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that hippie speedball is beautiful when done right too

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I had never heard this term but that's dope

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Probably the same as sex and cigarettes.

Or alcohol and cigarettes.

Double the high.

[–] fleebleneeble@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

If you're a pooping-challenged individual, it really helps knock that out whenever. And that always puts a smile on anyone's face

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I haven’t smoked in 8 years- and every morning when I have my coffee I STILL think, “fuck, a cigarette would elevate this whole experience just right.”

Don’t start. Bad idea.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

It’s a culture that doesn’t eat any damn vegetables, so they need weapons-grade stimulants to get anything out in the morning.

[–] goosehorse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Former smoker


don't try it, but trust that it's awesome.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

While we're shitting on breakfast culture in Europe I think that Italians have the worst. They have messed up daily rhythm (siesta and then dinner late in the evening)... Actually no, that's not an excuse. They have garbage breakfast culture, period.

Literally everyone else's breakfasts are awesome.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

please explain in detail these awful italian breakfasts because like greek food i have yet to find a dish in the culture i dislike

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The interwebs seem to have a consensus of cappuccino and a sweet pastry

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Scrambled eggs or pancakes are the limit of the imagination I've seen from Italian restaurants. But most places have pastry or some variation of a sandwich that's going to be mostly bread.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Stayed in Rome and Florence for a week. The only breakfast stuff we found were indeed either sweet pastries or biscuits, accompanied by fruit and cheese.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How many Italian breakfast dishes you see around 😄?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

i only buy sandwiches, coffee and passata at the the italian deli/cafe in town. they bake the best foccacia

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  1. Siesta is NOT Italian

  2. what do you mean "garbage breakfast"? Tell me what do you think most of Italians eat at breakfast

  3. Dinner late in the evening is not on the entire penisula

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Siesta is barely a thing in Italy any more unless you're like 70+ and rural lol. But a brioche stuffed with ice-cream is the king of breakfasts what are you on about

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Granted, I know Italy only from a tourist perspective.

Every damn restaurant closes in the summer in the middle of the day. So do many shops.

Italy rarely have breakfast restaurants - or at least what I'd consider a breakfast restaurant. Some variations of a premade ready to go sandwich ain't it. And the good places ain't open in the morning, but rather during brunch hours and serve brunch/lunch more than breakfast.

brioche stuffed with ice-cream

I know you're joking. You're kidding, right? :)

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Sicilian ice cream sandwiches are a real thing and they are basically the best thing that's ever happened to breakfast cuisine