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If they start doing airstrikes will any country offer USAians refugee status?
Call me naïve but airstrikes against their own civilians would surely be the final straw. surely
I dunno, they did an airstrike on a house in Philly and burned down an entire city block (61 buildings) and that wasn't the final straw, so who's to say
There is no straw.
Can't think of a population more groomed to turn on each other. Being able to legally kill your neighbor is the real American dream.
And what would happen?
Would that be the moment the "good" people gather their arms against him?
Odds are likely they'll either just flee or hope to quietly wait it out
The question was “Will any other countries start offering us refugee status?”
Lol nope, libs will whine but yearn for brunch
At this point im really not sure
Orders are orders.
You can always debate the drone
The average USAian with chuddy politics is likely to be just as atomized and alone as the rest of us. Finally realizing that "things have gone too far" is going to push them to what?
I don't have faith that individuals will both radicalize and organize against their former political "friends". I'm more willing to believe that they will just go quiet, hunker down, and hope that things "get better" at some future point in time after "somebody" does "something".
Nato country? Doubtful. Others? Maybe the ones with refugee programs that don't have any reliance on the US.
At that point I would qualify as a persecuted communist, would China take me? Maybe they'd rather use me as a double agent! Hello Xi! I've got good ideas!!
Maybe through UNHCR? I think you need to actually go there first though, then apply from within the country. They don't get very many applications per year:
Compare with US:
I suspect this is mostly because refugees try to flee somewhere that they speak the language.
Wow the difference between the two is wild, thanks for sharing. Your point about the language makes sense. I've been involved at the margins of various diaspora communities and they are a strong pull too. That kind of thing probably hasn't had enough time to develop for China.
It's still so wild that a country of 1 billion people only received 78 refugee applications in a whole year. In comparison India got >3000 applications last year.
Wherever you're from, whatever language you speak, you will be able to find some small diaspora in a country so large.
Either something is not right with the data or there's something else going on. Maybe China has some different asylum/refugee process that's easier?
Please Xi
I don't think alliances are so cut-and-dry. I would assume e.g. EU countries will gladly take US refugees (because they're white enough, if nothing else)
It's not so simple. Doing so would involve acknowledging that the US is doing something wrong enough to warrant it. Doing so would also trigger legal repercussions in many of those countries that must automatically carry out various actions against perpetrating countries. They are more likely to look the other way and pretend the US is doing nothing wrong than they are to acknowledge that the leader of nato is carrying out such abuses that it is producing refugees.
They might call it something other than "refugees" to avoid legal issues, but in practice accepting refugees who are already close culturally, and are ready to work 12h shifts (because they've been doing so in the US already) makes financial sense. The usual right-wing opposition won't be an issue either. So it's more likely to happen than not, in my view.
EU countries would collapse if America fell into civil war. Besides people are already hating on white Ukrainian refugees, americans wont be received that much better.
Cuba, Venezuela, Laos, Russia
good luck gettin there
Cuba isn't too far from a lot of us in the US
Can't wait for the American Gusano community in Cuba.
Finally, being in Florida works out in my favor.
I think Vietnam probably would.
Come to think of it, I bet you the DPRK would, but like the other commenter said, good luck getting there.