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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That’s a problem with unchecked capitalism, not AI. Remember how George Jetson was able to have a house in the sky, a suitcase spaceship, full home automation, a robot maid, and supported his whole family by pushing a button? Consider how many people lived and worked on the ground beneath the cloud cover to make that possible.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There were no people down there. It was just a flooded planet

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

They had an episode on the ground I thought.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

What we thought was the ground, could perfectly be a bigger platform for the buildings

[-] wizblizz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of AI apologists in here. I want the leisure time required to create art, instead of being fucking burned out from working multiple jobs and spending all my available free time doing chores. Fuck AI, fuck the uncompensated artists and illegitimate theft of those works used to train the AI, and fuck you for normalizing it.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

AI apologists

Im not an "AI apologist" because theres nothing to apologise for.

Much like im not an "automatic loom apologist" or a "steam engine apologist"

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Apologist comes from the greek word "apologia", which means "speech in defense." Apologetics isn't apologizing, it's defending.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 0 points 3 months ago

Another way to learn is to look up words you don't know instead of a) guessing, and then b) reacting based on guesswork.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Yeah let me just sit down and look up the etymology of literally every single fucking Englush word 🤓🤓🤓

[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago

Who said anything about etymology? Your problem was not knowing the current definition.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Who said anything about etymology?

Literally the guy I first replied to?

[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 0 points 3 months ago

He explained the etymology as background information before pointing out what "apologists" means. He was correcting your misunderstanding of a word (the one you didn't bother to look up and instead chose to react based on not knowing the word) and explaining why the false cognate existed. The main point wasn't the linguistic history lesson. It was that "apologists" doesn't mean "people apologizing".

Just suck it up and learn, buttercup. You were wrong and are now doing a really bad rearguard action.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Okay, so instead of looking up the etymology of every single word you just want me to look up the definition of every single word? Oh yeah mate, thats completely reasonable actually 🤡🤡

Just suck it up and learn, buttercup. You were wrong and are now doing a really bad rearguard action.

God I feel bad for whoever knows you in real life, if you're this insufferably smug over a stranger getting the definition of a word wrong, I cant imagine how much you have your head up your own arse in person.

[-] PlushySD@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Let me make it clear first. Generative AI is not art. Prompt engineering is not a real job.

AI is just a tool. It is still waiting for an artist to use it to create art, just as a Photography or Photoshop image is not an art by itself.

But... training with images is the same as humans learning how to draw, though..... I know it's boring but what you said is boring too. We could fall back to the same conversation over and over because you start with the same conversation again and again.

FUCK AI, and also FUCK PEOPLE AGAINST AI, Good thing I hate everyone!

[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago

FUCK AI, and also FUCK PEOPLE AGAINST AI, Good thing I hate everyone!

That sounds more like self-loathing.

[-] Fungah@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I want to be able to create all the things Ive dreamed of creating my.whole life without spending 4-8 years in fucking art school, saddling myself in debt for a skill that was virtually impossible to make a living off of. and that was BEFORE ai. AI has enabled me to create things that would have been fucking.impossible for me to.create on my own and and absurdly.expensive to have commissioned. Its allowed me to create things that would be literally.impossible without it.

I had ideas. I just couldn't afford to make it real. With ai I've been able to.

I never would have paid an artist to do what I've been able to done for myself. Even if I could have afforded it.

Ai may commodotize creativity but it democratizes art.

Jeans Pierre can still build a lifesized model.of Donald trump.out of tampons and I get an to cover my walls with viking chicks with huge fits that look like they're painted by van Gogh, and oil paintings of my face instead of whoever the model.was on history's greatest works.of art.

If you're an artist pissed off about ai taking your money: you probably wouldn't have made much anyway. Being an artist was always a reckless gamble.

[-] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

Don't be so bitter dude. Go out and be the change you want to see.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

What does the even mean? Like what are you even trying to say?

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Fuck AI

be the change you want to see

Obviously this means AI sex dolls.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

This right here will be our species demise

[-] vankappa@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

capitalism is the reason why AI is doing art

[-] regrub@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Calling AI generated pictures "art" is insulting to most artists. I agree though, all this hype is driven by short-sighted capitalism

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Anyone who believes AI is being used for art/writing and not for other things like doing the dishes, has a myopic understanding and a strong confirmation bias. This strawman argument is defeated by a simple Google search to see the multitude of other places where this technology is benefiting humanity.

AI is helping physicists speed up experiments into supernovae to better understand the universe.

AI is helping doctors to expedite cancer screening rates.

Oh, and AI is powering robots that can do the dishes too.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 months ago

Anyone who believes that anyone here is trying to suggest that art/writing is the only thing AI is used for, has a myopic understanding of how nuanced conversation works.

I don’t think artists/writers care about what else AI is being used for when they are losing their livelihood to a kid with a computer.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

I like washing my dishes and do the laundry (but not washing clothes by hand, that we left for good). I feel like some manual labor each day leaves a breathing room for my mind when I don't scroll or consume content or work with my mind exhausted and occupied. It reminds me of how Don Carleone liked his garden work in the book. Just a simple labor with evident results.

The problem here that I see is that people who are the most influential and interested in these AIs most, like Muskie or Altman, never did their dishes or clothes, so this labor doesn't exist for them. Their impotency to feel, to create art, to write, to make jokes is what makes them create an AI for these tasks and since they can't tell good from bad there, they are happy with them. We don't have a soulless AI, we have an AI created for these soul-lacking suits who've never done their dishes or joked at themselves.

That's not an informed opinion, just a funny thought I had from this post <3

[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Keep talking like that and they're going to take your asshole certificate away.

[-] dilletante@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

build your own AI then

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