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Wow this is shockingly familiar. Why tf is it happening in Chille, though? Like is anyone even migrating to Chille?
How are "books offline" more proper English than books online, exactly? They're the same books, no?
Most people are not comfortable enough to sit with themselves and decide who they are as a person and figure out their real internal motivations because the necessity of work has made it fairly easy to avoid doing that difficult work.
Source? Proof? Or you just throwing that out there as if it means anything?
That also sounds incredibly condescending. I prefer to assume better of my fellow human beings, I see no reason they are not capable of this if I am, because I don't think myself as better than "most people".
It isn't a pleasant opportunity, but the experience of being left rudderless, of having to sort things out on your own without a script or a clear path forward is one that many people don't get,
Oh, do people not choose what to do with their life for work as young as 14 in America or...? Because by then here in the UK I had to pick my subjects for my GCSEs that i'd study for two years, then make sure I can nail the exams so I am eligible to go for the A-Level subjects I want to pursue for the 2 years of school after that, and make sure that I nail those so I can go to uni and get the degree I need to pursue the career I want for the next 20-30 years while also keeping in mind that I must be good enough at it all to actually compete and thrive.
As a working class person who had no parental backing and an immigrant who had to find a way to stay in the country for my own safety, I had to make the right decisions when confronted by an extremely brutal reality at an age when my immediate concerns were heated fandom debates about mass effect 3's endings.
As far as I'm aware both here and there at 16 someone could literally choose to pursue military service too.
So literally all of us are forced to make extremely comitting choices that impact the rest of our life and figure these things out.
There are enough people, particularly in America, that have been just comfortable enough to never have to really think about back up plans or contingencies for what to do with their life in the absence of its current structure.
That might have been true 80 years ago, but that's not how these things work in such a dynamic job market either.
And there are many reasons why people may not have the wherewithal to find meaning in their lives. Some people are so focused on survival that meaning hasn't even occurred to them. Others are depressed or traumatized or otherwise miserable and it's hard to find meaning in blinding pain. Some people have been spoon fed meaning by way of work since the day they were born and literally do not know any other way to exist. Personally, I was stuck in a blend of these things when I was still working in tech and it was in the throes of abject despair that I finally forced myself to make the changes required to pursue my life's meaning through work as a physician. Getting into and through medical school has been a brutal process and it has been immensely painful to try to imagine alternatives after the amount of work I've put in to pursue this goal. I'm now within 6 months of graduating and will be starting residency next summer, but it won't be in the specialty that I had hoped (and that I had already staked a piece of my identity to). I've suffered more hardship than many, but I have also been more comfortable than plenty of other people, but I would find a great deal of turmoil and misery trying to restructure my life without being able to work as a physician (and that's not even getting into the financial nightmare of my student loan situation.)
None of these things have anything to do with wage labour specifically. You mention financial nightmares and not being able to be a physician, the former is a product of capitalism, not wage labour, the latter is not relevant as no one is actually stopping you from being a physician in a post-work world, you would be free to be a healer, in fact - more free to be a healer because you would not be stuck in a tech job, or any kind of job for that matter.
If society really collapsed, and for some reason the post-society world didn't leave space for me to be a physician or a healer of some kind
Again, I would sure hope in a post-wage-labour utopia that doctors exist. Just because you would not be in wage-labour "work" doesn't mean you can't do something. The vast majority of what people do and even more of what people want to do or like to do isn't and actually can't be wage labour either, whether it's art or scientific research etc and many professional like doctors and teachers and janitors that actually do something necessary for society are wildly underpaid by said society because they exist at odds with the capitalist wage labour structure, not because of it, and they existed before and will exist long after as professions.
Losing everything you've structured your life on is a form of grief and not everyone is equipped to handle that grief gracefully and effectively while being able to carry on with their lives.
Of course, but that isn't what actually would happen so the entire premise is faulty.
We cannot prove a negative, there is no way to say that something has absolutely zero risk, and no burden of evidence is ever enough for many (for instance of this: see the puberty blockers & trans HRT debates or any vaccine safety debates).
Therefore the burden of proof is on those who claim there is a risk. We can do our best to rule out what harms we can, as you said - as a precaution, but we cannot simply ban everything until proof that literally cannot exist arrives that something is risk-free.
The question is whether the risks outweigh the rewards. And the rewards of being able to use plastic everywhere are actually massive, there are so many medical and scientific applications that just wouldn't be possible without the wonder of plastic. So much QoL enhancing stuff like access to internet and food and water in most deprived places got so much more accessible thanks to the physical and economic properties of plastic, and no I don't mean corporate profits I literally mean it is cheaper even by labour value theory terms.
If anything is unscientific. It's your, we have no conclusive proof so let's keep flying to the sun and see what happens. I value health over profit though. I guess that might be where we differ.
Flying into the sun to see what happens is how we find out what happens. That's actual science. Best we can do is rule out some risks based on what we know, which we have done and continue doing to this day.
I don't value profit whatsoever, I'm as leftist as you and probably more so, please chill with the condescending tone, I'm on your side, but your line of argument is flawed and a one way street to reactionary thinking and stifling of human progress.
Dare I say... based? Broken clock right twice a day etc etc. Or maybe in France sex is apolitical.
You're missing the point. If asbestos didn't do any harm, we wouldn't have had to ban it.
It's possible that microplastics do not actually do any harm. You must consider this possibility to maintain a sharp and sound mind capable of critical analysis and a healthy scepticism and scrutiny.
Jumping to conclusions that anything unnatural must be harmful like asbestos because some substances like asbestos have harmed us in the past is anti-intellectualism.
The real issue right now is that we do not know if any humans without microplastics in them, making it impossible to gather evidence from a control group population to actually be able to attribute any observed things to microplastics.
Almost all foods are processed and most are some degree of premade. You better hope so too, because "processing" gets rid of like the insanely high risk of contamination that food has in nature. Eating meat of a deer carrying some virus or bacteria or simply being poisoned by fungi affecting some plant was how non-agricultural humans died a lot, and it's only once we started processing everything, like e.g. ultra heat-treated & pasteurized milk that food quality improved.
Woaah now we're talking opportunities? I never mentioned that at all.
I think it's fairly obvious that in a world where we would no longer have to do work and there wasn't a need to work to survive ala capitalism or hunter-gathering that people would have literally unlimited opportunities and unlimited time, and that's what this conversation was originally about.
When you claimed "not everyone is a leader" in that context you are referring to innate ability only, not opportunities. There is an implied "all things being equal" in there.
You and I obviously agree on what you wrote in regards to equity etc, these are basic humanist notions, but they are also irrelevant in this discussion.
All things being equal, if a person could not find meaning in their life to move towards I would judge them for it because I was able to, and if I see myself as not innately better than others, then there is no reason that innately others shouldn't be able to accomplish to a similar level that I had done.
There are billions of people alive today that don't have the mental framework to cope with this kind of change because our education systems are abysmally incapable of teaching people how to think critically, structurally, and existentially.
So if I can, what does that mean?
Because I'd prefer to assume, out of empathy, that it means that others are capable of it as well. I am nothing special at all, if I can do it, so can others.
If anything that's the humble, empathetic assumption. I did not need to be taught, I went out of my way to learn these things. So it must be that others are capable of that too, right?
Because the alternative would be to assume less of others than of myself, which is actually the ugly, unempathetic assumption, which I'd prefer not to make.
My worldview rests on judging myself by the same standard I judge others, extending a theoretical stranger the same benefit of the doubt I'd extend myself. That - to me - is empathy.
Am I missing something? Is there a third way? Because I'd love to hear it.
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