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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 98 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What a complete lack of basic science education does to a mfer

Politicians are like we need to compete with China meanwhile our people are over here like "one bird flu smoothie please"

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

Politicians are like we need to compete with China meanwhile our people are over here like "one bird flu smoothie please"

Oh, man - did that make me laugh! But then I actually sighed. Fuck.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Site tagline material right here. stalin-point

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 73 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Might be a great time to stock up on N95s

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And canned food.

Hope you have a bidet this time.

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[–] Blep@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

I admire your optimism

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[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

(Not so) fun fact, there are several US states which prohibit the direct sale of unpasteurized milk, but allow the owner to drink milk from the cow, so they exploit the loophole by having buyers purchase a fractional share of the cow so that they can drink the milk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herdshare

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

fitting since fractional ownership is one of the key technologies needed for capitalism

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

I had no idea. That's fucking awful.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago

by far one of the worst parts about living in the United States is that you're surrounded by these people every goddamn day

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's just that little bit worse when you remember that cows with H5N1 produce weirdly thick and yellow milk kombucha-disgust

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

weirdly thick and yellow milk

That's the extra yummy mucus.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

In the States, they can charge extra for that.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gentle folk of Hexbear, I suggest investing in canned goods and shotguns over the short term

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can openers are much easier to use.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

But not as much fun

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[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

why waste space with canned goods when you can have an astonishingly large tub of dried beans instead

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Y'know I always thought Nurgle was the chaos god with the worst offer but I guess there are more plague enthusiasts than I thought.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] edge@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Other raw milk drinkers, such as Peg Coleman, a medical microbiologist who runs Coleman Scientific Consulting, a Groton, N.Y.-based food safety consulting company, claimed the government’s warnings have no basis in reality.

How did this person get a degree?

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Oh hey, I looked into this one when one of my friend's aunts went on about raw milk.

So basically, she's done research on the microbiota of raw vs pasteurised milk and concluded the beneficial bacteria of raw milk can outweigh the risks for non-immunocompromised people. People can still get pasteurised if they wish. Another argument is that products with a higher fatality rate are still legal.

However, the flaws in her research don't account for are this:

  • If huge corporations are allowed to simply not sterilise their milk, they will do so, meaning raw will be the cheaper product and therefore more likely to be purchased by the average person, who may or may not understand the risks involved. A struggling family doing their groceries will choose the cheaper milk and possibly put their elderly/infant family members at risk.

  • Her research is done with samples of raw milk that are a lot more controlled. The difference in risks between a sample of milk from a healthy cow directly into a sterile vessel into a lab environment is vastly different to milk produced en masse under capitalism, where cows are crowded together in battery farms, fed with the cheapest grains available, and milked with the same equipment that's milked a thousand other cows, and all the milk is pooled together where it's impossible to separate "safer" raw milk and contaminated milk from sick cows are then to be cooled and bottled. Her research simply does not account for the corners that will definitely be cut in an industrial capitalist scale

  • Dying from alcohol poisoning because you drank perfectly legal 180 proof alcohol is different to dying from H5N1 milk because alcohol poisoning isn't contagious.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

jesus fucking christ

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

imagine if you will, the richest society on earth. now imagine it's so sick that citizens voluntarily try to give themselves novel avian flus.

[–] Hexphoenix@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

What is it with people named McAfee being absolutely unhinged

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 years ago

Angloids will literally line themselves up to het infected with the Black Death when cases od that start to inevitably reappear.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago
[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

I'm starting to actually buy into the theory that some nefarious actor is actually doing the whole "let's tell them not to stick their heads in bags and they'll do it reflexsively"

Is it really a coincidence we constantly arrive at the dumbest possible position this consistently?

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

I swear we made a joke about this a few days ago, hogs really are hopeless

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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

reinventing vaccination but shittier

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

H5N1 has a roughly 50% mortality rate in known cases for humans. It's probably an overestimate but we shouldn't assume it's way off.

So half that would get it from milk die and half would be "immune" for a while lol. Though maybe not even immune to whatever variant might become effective at human-human transmission.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

They're picturing milk straight from a happy, grazing cow earlier that morning, that's been put in a bottle and refrigerated till they purchase it, diseases are freak accidents. Obviously the wise old farmer wearing overalls with a piece of straw hanging from his mouth wouldn't sell you the milk if the cow seemed sick, right?

The reality would be thousands of cows in cages being milked with the same equipment as every other cow, sick or otherwise, and all the milk gets pooled together and bottled and possibly spends 2-3 days in transit.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"Raw milk"??

i too wish to shit out my insides on an hourly basis, fucking bloodmouths are hopeless

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[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Yeah that worked out so well for the British dairy industry in WWI

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago

Praise be to Papa Nurgle! He loves all his children and wishes only to spread his filthy blessing to all!

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is raw milk just unpasteurised or is there more to it?

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago

Just this, yes.

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[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Goddamn we live in a neat timeline

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, but at least they're talking in terms that would make sense with a sophmoric knowledge of immunology, not flat denial. I'm trying to pull out the positives here.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, they've always used whatever was around and convenient to reinforce or spread their delusions. There's plenty to cherry-pick out of science to backup basically whatever you want, so long as you ignore the rest of science that doesn't fit your narrative or is even just less convenient. Their (mis)use of scientific terms and phrasing isn't new, and if anything needs to be criticized more than the straight-up batshit antiscience imo.

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