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[-] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 154 points 1 month ago

I work in training and development and almost had a stroke today when someone showed me some new material for new hires that essentially said, ‘to get promoted you should volunteer to do more work’. Uh, no. We’re not asking people to work for free, take that out. Forget it ever existed. Fucks sake.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 124 points 1 month ago

My work moved to that model, to get promoted you have to first work at that level for free.

Then, of course, they don't promote you because you're already doing the work for them. Why should they?

[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago
[-] Nougat@fedia.io 39 points 1 month ago

They're master baiters.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 86 points 1 month ago

I worked at Lowe’s for a little over a year. They constantly assigned me about 3-4 times the amount of work a human can do. They absolutely would not listen to me when I told them it was too much. They kept saying to do these tasks “in my downtime”.

I never had a minute of downtime. Every shift I was scrambling at 100 mph to get things done, and it never let up.

They just kept calling me in to talk about my performance, and when I’d say it was impossible they’d just say “it’s up to you to find the time”.

I eventually got fired, and thank god. My own self respect was dwindling the longer I put up with it. I should have quit, but didn’t have the courage to.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

Lowe's the same company that hires 50 or so old farts that can't do shit or know shit that stand around talking not helping customers, all on the basis that "they're veterans" so Lowe's hires them for the image of "supporting veterans"

[-] force@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can definitely be wrong, but since the US has a lot more of a veteran obsession culture than other countries there are probably laws that give companies major benefits (like idk tax credits) for hiring veterans, so they gain more for hiring those useless employees than they lose.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 13 points 1 month ago

American employment applications typically ask if you are a veteran. Also if you are disabled. It helps them check boxes to prove that they don't discriminate. Not sure what other benefits they get, but possibly something when it comes to veterans.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I BELIEVE you can gain certain tax breaks if you can prove that a certain percentage of your workforce is veterans or disabled people.

At the very least, I'm OK with it. Leveraging my autism diagnosis has gotten me a few positions in the past from employers wanting to tick those EEOC boxes.

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[-] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 1 month ago

Almost all of the people who work at my local Lowe's are young adults. Twenties, thirties.

It's Home Depot that did the hiring old people thing. They even paid for my grandfather's funeral.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 83 points 1 month ago

They made up a new word for hating your job and then put in three pictures of people on the edge of a breakdown. That's not hating your job, that's being crushed by your job. It's right there in the photo. You can see it in their eyes.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

I'd say most people hate their job because it is crushing them.

[-] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I wish that were true. But most people i know getting crushed/burning out like their job. It is much easier to take on "extra's" when you are motivated by the work you are doing to the point of unsustainability.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 48 points 1 month ago

I've never worked more than what my job description said. Want me to do more? Pay me for it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Well said. I was exactly the same way. Co-workers always were amazed that I left the second the clock hit 5. Fuck them if they think I'm working a second for them for free.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 9 points 1 month ago

Mostly same. My coworkers in Japan were shocked that I did not abide by the rule that I should come in (at least) 15 minutes early and stay (at least) 15 minutes late because I wasn't going to do it unless I were getting an extra half an hour of pay for every day.

But hey, I was a great employee, and I didn't get fired. I also did not give them that extra half an hour every day.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One of the benefits of my job (military) is my upward movement is almost entirely based on my motivation. A huge portion of the competition (as it is a competition) is a test on both the service at the level you're moving into and your particular specialty. But there's also time in rate (the pay grade you are currently at) and time in service, both of which get capped at a certain point (we call those "dinosaur points") so your chances improve the longer you're in. It also includes award points (medals, basically) and some other things, and finally employee review (the next largest chunk after the test).

So work hard to get a good review and study for a test, and you move up. But that's not always a good thing. I sat at E-5 for a long time because I loved the job I was doing, and I was making decent money (about 60k after taxes), but then I was such a "senior" E-5 that I got to do the job I loved less (being a helicopter flight mechanic, maintaining and fixing aircraft) and the next level up stuff more (managing people, mentoring, supervising), so I just decided I would make the effort and get paid for it (which I did).

As much as people in my service complain about how advancement (promotion) works, every story I hear about how absolutely arbitrary and shitty it is in the civilian world I'm reminded how good I have it.

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[-] Drusas@kbin.run 41 points 1 month ago

We are the majority. The vast majority. It seems like we should be able to combat this.

I know, I know. All the systems are rigged against us all the world over. But it still baffles the mind that a relative handful of people can abuse all of us.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago

We are the majority. The vast majority. It seems like we should be able to combat this.

A disorganized majority is possibly worse than an individual at combating anything

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[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

the systems are made of us.

I’ve also heard it referred to in some circles as Ligma

[-] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Oh, that sounds serious, what's Ligma?

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

That was epic.

[-] Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

You're a good sport.

[-] macisr@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

They are trying to get to something that sticks lol.

[-] Arkaelus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

"Quiet quitting" didn't really have that zing to it, eh?

[-] penfore@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I was trying to remember this term they used before. Thank you.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Big Business: We're gonna stop rewarding hard work and loyalty cause employees are nothing but replaceable chattel that don't deserve respect, much less a decent living wage

Employees: Works only to the limit defined in their contract and not one inch more because they are horrifically underpaid, disrespected and treated like replaceable chattel

Big Business: God damn lazy workers just dont want to work anymore! What happened to this country?

Everyone with two functioning neurons of common sense: You. You happened to this country. Stop treating your employees like shit, Cause its not a worker problem, its a Boss/Executive problem

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago
[-] Remotedeck@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago

I remember quite quitting. Anyone else have one?

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 1 month ago

I have also quite quit at points in my lifetime.

[-] Beebabe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I remember getting the email letting us know we should arrive early and be ready. I just keep walking in at my exact scheduled time because that’s when I start getting paid. I will bill a single minute of drive time. This is what you get for a .75 annual raise.

[-] BrightHalo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Hasn't this always been around? I think I even occasionally had related conditions but for chores, school work, .. growing up until I found my interests in school and professionally

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You should look up the phrase in the title.

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

I thought we had agreed to call this quiet quitting

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

People stopped clicking on that.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

In Germany we call it "Dienst nach Vorschrift"

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Translate is giving me some weirdness, but it appears to be like "working to the rule/regulation"?

[-] DivineDev@kbin.run 16 points 1 month ago

More or less correct, "Vorschrift" refers to the work you are obligated to do according to your work contract. You do exactly that and nothing more.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

So a better translation would be “working your contract”?

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Is the solution to revise the job so it isn't toxic and terrible?

Maybe, remember your workers are in fact human beings?

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Studies show that toxic businesses have lower productivity and stock value. Being friendly makes them money. Still, many can't help themselves and do power games instead.

[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 8 points 1 month ago

Yo so I was on this job in 2011 where the home owner was the contractor and had volunteers build her single family residence and retreat, I was on the paid crew.

The building department called it a mistake and wanted to tear it down. She sold it to an unsuspecting moron and he is now holding the bag. She was all about “community” and work/trade.

That house leaks like a sieve, and isn’t well temp controlled.

Top tier douche baggery right there. I got so many stories from that job 😂

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