A forum of like 100 people is gonna topple the Biden administration with it's propaganda.
It's illustrative of something about how libs view the world and their conspiracy brainworms. Commies are such a small percentage of the western electorate but they treat us like a huge problem for them. And then act like shits and ignore the large pools of potential voters alienated by years of austeriy politics.
Seriously, they're a user who has never posted here, complaining to an instance we've never been federated with.
I hate how they completely ignore how there's ongoing oppression against queer people and racial minorities right now, under Biden, and he's doing nothing about it or is actively making it worse. I live in Texas. Completely within Biden's term my state has outlawed trans healthcare and abortions. They've also begun gutting schools in primarily black or Latino districts. Biden's response has been to bomb Palestinians.
And yet these liberals tell me Trump is going to do worse to me? Biden's already allowing the worst of the fascists to do whatever they please. Biden in his second term is gonna overthrow the Texan state and shoot Greg Abbott in the head? And at the same time he'll bomb Palestinian kids?
Blue Anon is so bloody insufferable. At least Qanon has a fun Scooby Doo mystery for the hogs to follow. Liberals just want to cry and fucking cry.
They’re real people who were infiltrated by trollfarms when they were still on Reddit and lured into a more controlled environment.
Ahh yes, lemmy, the more controlled environment than lmao
A good portion of us are not even american you dumb fucks.
Up yours woke moralists. We’ll see who stays home.
It's good to know we're still living rent free in their heads. I literally never think about those people.
I legit don't even remember their existence until one of you dweeb goes posting about them whinging about how their genocidal president's gonna get fucking owned by
A DAMN CHEETO THATS ABOUT TO GO INTO THE WHITEHOUSE ![emoji cheeto-man cheeto-man](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/8d063e24-b928-4493-816e-c15b828615b9.png)
If you can't leverage an action to get something, what good is that action? How valuable is it if you gain nothing from withholding it?
If the president won't change to get votes, then why bother voting for them at all?
Why engage with the electoral system if your only viable choice is to vote one party?
How is this system any good if a single election can destroy democracy forever? And finally, why would anybody say that this is a good system worth defending?
Me waiting for someone to point at any time withholding your vote actually brought about measurable change in a positive direction.
Me waiting for someone to point at any time unconditionally promising to vote Democrat has actually brought about measurable change to the Democratic Party in a positive direction.
also lmao at them posting this to .world where they know we can't respond. @Jennykichu@lemmy.dbzer0.com come here and say that to our faces you fucking coward.
Real great stuff in there
"Hexbear users hate Biden with a passion and push the “both sides” envelope with fervor, so their message aligns with that of MAGA voters who want to dismantle the government. I don’t think Hexbear are really GOP advocates, I personally think they’re a small community that has been prodded along and mentored by Pro-CCP foreign agents, bots, and bad faith actors to create political divide and discord while also increasing support of the CCP and their immediate allies, but that’s all just armchair theorizing at this point."
everyone who doesn't agree with me has been manipulated. only I have been led to the fountain of truth by my own wit
They're going to have a meltdown when they realise the China has been growing in popularity among the organised left for years now and it's slowly but surely been making its way into the wider left.
Can someone explain this to me?
Hexbear either hates Biden as much as Trump or it hates Biden more than Trump, depending on which person you ask about the Hexbear spectre and on which day you ask them.
They usually agree that Hexbear is indistinguishable from Trump supporters.
They are seemingly in agreement that abstaining from voting does nothing but they are also seemingly in agreement that not voting is effective because it facilitates the victory for the side you oppose.
So if we are telling people not to vote then:
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It should be of no concern because it doesn't do anything
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It should be of no concern because (ostensibly) we support Trump and not Biden and when we tell one another on this site not to vote we would be making a Biden win more viable
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They also think this a credible threat to Biden's re-election because they're talking about how bad things would be if we "get our way" and Trump is elected
I just can't parse out how many conflicting and contradictory arguments are all getting jumbled into that conversation in that thread yet everyone seems to be nodding in agreement with eachother.
It's like a nightmare "Yes, and..." situation in there.
I'm not even American. I just don't see how voting for a genocidal rabid dog that needs to be beaten with a stick in Biden is going to fix anything. Trump supporters are not going away, and nor are the conditions that created him and them. And internationally, the USA will continue to be the imperial hegemon no matter who is in charge.
Who is it historically who have been the more likely to cave to fascism? What ideology did Carl Schmitt write about as being a trojan horse into fascism? No, it's actually the people who don't wanna vote for genocide who are the people enableing fascism not the people who do. Man these liberals are fucking stupid.
Ugh, did they just imply I'm American? That's probably the most offensive thing a liberal has called me in recent months
@Jennykichu@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you aren't banned I'd love to hear more!
What do you think about 90%+ of young voters strongly opposed to the genocide in Palestine?
significant numbers not voting for the incumbent Dem in a primary
:smug-crying-underneath:
cw: terminal liberalism
Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.
Joe Biden is “only” Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.
Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.
No, it doesn’t matter that he’s an active participant in the apparatus that’s creating the genocide, because if he’s in office there’s less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. If you abstain from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide and if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the amount of genocide.
The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it’s not a bad idea.
TLDR: if you encourage people to not vote for Biden, that’s supporting genocide. Accelerationism never works for us.
Interesting, face the wall please.
Unfortunately, no new candidates are available for this upcoming election.
A country of 350 million people can't find a candidate for an election that takes place 6 months form now?
Actually you should
(For PSL)
If you're voting between two genocidaires, and acknowledge it as such, then your political system is illegitimate and deeply evil.
And if it has gotten to that point, where you acknowledge the reality of genocidal parties and candidates but just handwring about voting, then the real sentiment here is:
I care about Ukrainians in my vicarious crusade against Russia (and because Ukrainians are European and white), and I don't care about Palestinians. Just let me go back to Brunch.
This is tell you all that those posters and propagandists are white supremacists. They just want a baptism that absolves their complicity in empire, because they also depend on it for cheap treats and good wages/credit. Life is materially good for them but also incredibly emotionally and spiritually vapid, which is why liberals obsess about politics in this manner.
Though Biden may not survive to see justice, I certainly hope the rest of the administration will be held to account one day.
Could it be all the genocide Biden is doing? No it must be propaganda that's the only logical explanation
Liberals have nothing other than demanding full loyalty to The Party.
I don't care if people vote or not, I am just tired of people pretending their choice to vote for what is dubiously lesser evil is morally superior or better informed. Go vote for your racist white man.
I’m just to figure out why the Hexbear communities are even federated into some Lemmy instances. They are blatantly racist to users.
crackers stop crying about being called a cracker challenge failed
I voted yesterday.
For uninstructed. 😎
I have depicted you as a baby wearing a MAGA hat, therefore I have won the argument
I am sorry my deepfried cat girl Stalin memes we so powerful they melted the brains of boomers in swing states
I’m just to figure out why the Hexbear communities are even federated into some Lemmy instances. They are blatantly racist to users.
What did you say that made people “racist” to you?
the_dunk_tank
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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