The counter culture was called a counter culture because it was a minority. Even of the boomers.

The intergenerational fight is dumb, but if you're talking generalisation and joining in, most boomers weren't hippies.

They conformed and are still complaining about those who don't conform. Just as they complained about hippies then they complain about zoomers now.

Ahh, the voice of reason. All ____ are ____ (fill in with your favorite stereotypes). Then, us serfs fight amongst ourselves, oblivious to what's really going on.

Nah, it was still the WW2 generation that fought for Civil rights. The Boomers were in elementary school in the 50s and only the oldest could even vote in 1963, 1964, and 1968.

But once all the Boomers could vote, who got elected? Reagan. So fuck them.

Yeah but... they seemed to not have realized that it would be THEM being used as cannon fodder. They thought they could just reap the benefits without having to lift a finger. It was going to be "repeal and then replace", and then once they swallowed that line, it reeled them in when it was too late to pull back.

i.e. they were promised peace - the territorial expansion was only supposed to last 3 days and that hardly counted in their eyes - and did not realize that by having elected Putin, it was already too late.

We're definitely not setting them up to be facing it in easy mode that's for sure.

No need to storm the beaches of Normandy we have the channel tunnel now. You can take a train, it's much easier.

I don't paint but, the imagery of zoomers "storming the beaches of economic inequality" gives me inspirational energy I haven't had in a while. Thank you.

Lower vs middle class maybe sure, there is discussion there. Skilled vs unskilled labor: you don't know how to read even Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with skill (you can watch a guy dice an onion in his hand in 4.2 seconds and it's still "unskilled labor") and everything to do with choosing the right vocabulary to express a point: some jobs require college or trade school and some do not.

And the worst part is forgetting that Boomers did their best to avoid going to war, just like any person would. In fact, it got so bad and so many people were going to jail or becoming Canadian exiles by avoiding the draft that Jimmy fucking Carter had to issue a general amnesty for all citizens.

Heard a comedian crack a joke about that. Went something like, "well all the cool Boomers died of drugs or AIDS so now we're stuck with the hall monitors of the generation."

Hits a little to hard sometimes lol

My dad was shocked to learn that the communists won

Even that is distorted - the Vietnamese people won under incredible hardship. Simple farmers, hundreds of thousands simply refused to bow to imperialist rule. They were helped, but they did the fighting.

But you can also argue that the US did "win" the war or at least their objectives. The objective was to stop the domino effect of socialism and they absolutely brutally devastated Vietnam for many decades. And that was their objective, to punish anyone who dares to redistribute wealth.

That's because they collectively have the political intelligence of a concussed pigeon.

They go on and on about freedoms and their freedoms and their freedoms to have guns and in the next sentence endorse Trump a man who if he had his way would invite fascism into the country. Presumably their guns would be taken off them at that point. Since fascism with an armed population rarely works out.

But none of them realize this because that's like three steps down the line, and they're still struggling to think about step one.

First, close VIM.

We absolutely won the war on terror in Afghanistan.

Osama bin Laden tried to show that he was the scariest terrorist, and the US military took that personally and wasn't willing to give up the crown. So, for a decade before his death, and a decade after, we spent trillions of dollars to make sure that a bunch of nice, lovely shepherds would shit themselves with fear if they're at a wedding or funeral and hear the sound of an airplane in the distance.

The goal was to make the most terror right? Did I move the goalposts enough that the US still wins?

And the war on drugs!

Could have**

Yes this is always the way. We will all tell our kids we walked to school uphill both ways in the snow until forever. Hopefully they all still go to school.

Some tail end boomers may have fought in Desert Storm but that’s primarily Gen X.

Then millennials took over since then, and Gen Z joined us in the last decade.

The Boomers had Vietnam … and I guess thought it was so fun they decided to make it worse for all their kids and grandkids

Zoomers lean more left than previous generations, in larger quantities and as a percentage, even including increased far-right zoomers as compared to previous generations.

Modern pop music being materialistic and conformist is just the music industry, there's tons of anticapitalist modern punk if you look for it.

Since when do musical lyrics irrevocably dictate political party affiliation?

This isn't a binary choice.

By your standards those that listen to country music would actually give a shit about this country and their fellow person while driving trucks and drinking beer. They only get the last two.

That's because people figured out a formula to make the most widely accessible and profitable music possible. Its a process that isn't exclusive to music or gen z, and I fail to see how its relevant.