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The mayor of Elyria has ordered a probe after the woman who lives at the home accused police of raiding the wrong house, an incident that she said left her baby with severe burns.

The mayor of Elyria, Ohio, has ordered an investigation after a woman alleged that police officers who raided her home had the wrong address and deployed flash-bang devices that sent her 1-year-old to the hospital with burns.

Police have offered a conflicting account of what happened Jan. 10, saying in a statement Friday that they had executed a search warrant at the correct address and the child did not "sustain any apparent, visible injuries."

Courtney Price says audio from her Ring camera proves them wrong. In a clip shared exclusively with NBC News on Tuesday, someone can be heard saying "it's the wrong house." It is not clear who made the remark because the camera fell to the ground and went dark after police deployed the flash-bang devices.

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[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 131 points 9 months ago

Cops showing up at the wrong house and throwing a flash bang at a baby is entirely on brand and raises no new questions.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] Raz@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago

I clicked the last story and it made truly me sick to my stomach. I had to skip through the details halfway. I'm angry and sad, and I am once again confirmed in my belief that I will never, ever want to live in the US. There are so many of these stories, and for so long now, and yet nothing has changed. The country is morally bankrupt.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

There are definitely some Americans that would rather live in a first world country but it's not as easy as just pickup and leave.

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[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 122 points 9 months ago

The search warrant was for the Parmely Avenue residence, but it was issued for a person who hasn’t lived there in more than a year, Price said, sharing the search warrant left by police at the home.

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Price said she learned police had visited the home at least five times within the past year. "The landlord even told [police] she had new tenants," she said.

This is after the article mentions that they only waited six seconds between knocking on the door and busting in.

If your police department shows this degree of incompetence executing a raid, it should have all its toys taken away. No more flashbangs, no more SWAT gear, no fancy guns. You get the wrong address, you hurt an innocent person, you fail to identify yourselves, you lose privileges. Hell, I seriously question whether they need most of that shit in the first place.

I legitimately believe that a disturbingly high number of these raids that go wrong happen because the cops want to play with with their shiny new equipment.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

that is not incompetence.

that is malice.

i'm tired of reading cop apologists tell me about incompetence.

Fuck your incompetence. They are murderous thugs. They are quite competent at it.

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100% this. Agents of the state want to feel like agents of the state. They get excited at the opportunity.

We need police reform.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Six seconds?! Holy fuck, it takes me about a minute and a half just to get the dogs corralled. Thank god I keep yelling, "just a minute!" Hopefully if this ever happens to me, the cops will hear me yelling.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They will ignore you and kick your door down if it's a raid, knock or otherwise. Excellent chance they shoot your dog too because apparently the cops just love murdering family pets.

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 73 points 9 months ago

Another flashbanged baby aside: No knock SWAT raid for a kid who stole stuff seems uh... insane?

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This isn't better but they actual did knock, but then waited less than ten seconds before they used the ram, so they busted the door down as the resident was approaching the door.

In fact I'd agrue it's worse because they turned a (presumably) knock warrant into a defacto no knock by refusing to wait for a response. These cops clearly wanted to play storm trooper.

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Also I thought the SWAT stopped doing "breach and bang" systematically ? I guess their new doctrine isn't much better if they still end up throwing grenades at babies, in the wrong house nonetheless

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago

IMO police rules of engagement should disallow use of any tactical equipment until they at least run into active opposition. There's an innocent until proven guilty assumption built into the legal system, the police should also have a passive until proven violent assumption.

The only reason a single mother and baby should ever be flash banged is if they are shooting at the police. With the technology today, they should be aware of who is going to be hit by a flash bang before it's even thrown.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 33 points 9 months ago

The only reason a single mother and baby should ever be flash banged is if they are shooting at the police. With the technology today, they should be aware of who is going to be hit by a flash bang before it’s even thrown.

That, and there isn't ever really a need to do raids in the first place.

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

there isn't ever really a need to do raids in the first place

Exactly! There might be a reason to be ready for a raid, for example if there's a strong suspicion that someone's heavily armed and might attack. But you don't start acting offensively until you're 200% sure that someone poses an immediate and serious threat.

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[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 14 points 9 months ago

Most police are cowards, and bad at their jobs simultaneously.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Raises new questions? No you dumb insincere assholes in the American media, we've been asking the same damn question and have had solid answers to why and how to fix this kind of bullshit for over a decade now.

oh and

Police have offered a conflicting account of what happened Jan. 10, saying in a statement Friday that they had executed a search warrant at the correct address and that the child did not "sustain any apparent, visible injuries."

Otherwise known as cops lied once again and they'll get a tax payer paid vacation while they investigate themselves and found they did nothing wrong.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Otherwise known as cops lied once again

Despite all the other problems (and believe me, I'm very, very strident in my criticisms of policing in the US), if it didn't always ALWAYS come down to this, I could possibly begin to understand the "well it's a really hard job we're doing our best" defense.

No, cops. You fuck up, and you lie about it. You got away with it for decades to centuries before there were cameras you couldn't control everywhere. Don't tell me about your integrity or about how I just don't understand the job. Talk to me about those things when lies aren't the go-to for police when shit hits the fan every. single. time.

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

That's honestly disgusting. I dunno how they can keep getting away with this.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 9 months ago

Is this the same baby that got flash banged a few years ago and the family is still trying to get justice for what happened? Or is this another baby that got flash banged? Either way, it's fucking disgusting and outrageous!

[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 months ago

That big case a few years ago was in GA I think

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 57 points 9 months ago

"Raises new questions," no the fuck they did not. It raised the same question it raises every time; why are these clowns allowed to do this bullshit with 0 accountability?

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[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

If the baby got burned by the flashbang imagine what it did to their hearing. I bet it got permanent damage.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 52 points 9 months ago

cops are paid liars. they are legally allowed to, and encouraged to lie. they work closely with district attorneys, who would be the ones to prosecute them if they lie. that is why you can never trust a police officer.

sorry guys, it is the nature of your shitty job.

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[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.zip 42 points 9 months ago

So if it wasn't the police action that caused the burns, what did? It's an easy question to answer: it was the police action. The pre-existing conditions had nothing to do with them picking the wrong house and burning a kid.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

I want to see a new version of CSI in which they depict police doing shit like this that the unsuspecting public are dealing with and not the super heroes it tries to be written as.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

It is a tremendous amount more difficult to make a police show without the cooperation of actual police. They only help if you portray them acceptably positive. Like B99 is about as critical as they can get I think.

[-] Evia@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

So make a show without police cooperation.

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[-] gearheart@lemm.ee 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Apparently we now live in a world where toddler abuse is more acceptable than basic reproductive health care....

[-] cloud_punk@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

They don't care about children after they are born.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 34 points 9 months ago

American police put a child in the hospital, but refuse to acknowledge it had been hurt in any way, shape or form.

Typical of those murderous thugs.

[-] microphone900@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 months ago

"Price said she learned police had visited the home at least five times within the past year. "The landlord even told [police] she had new tenants," she said."

They knew and they went for it anyway. Typical.

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

American police should wear clown clothes.

[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

no new questions. all cops are bastards. surprised more people don’t understand. they need the cops to beat them bloody and senseless before they may consider not backing the blue.

I don’t support the police because I am morally opposed to domestic violence and pedophillia.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Worse: it turns out that the police don't actually solve crimes--the clearance rate drops year after year. Their only real function is to have someone sitting in a parked police car outside of some place while the officer plays on their cell phone all night. The only way the police solve crimes is by witnessing them, otherwise they can be used as an in-place deterrent. Outside of that, they have very little use.

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

The police do shit like this and then their funding increased each year.

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[-] ratcliff@lemmy.wtf 18 points 9 months ago

It's weird how no politician wants to reign this in

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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

The book “Rise of the Warrior” cop cover this type of thing in great detail. The militarization of our police along with continued funding being tied directly to the antiquated War on Drugs leads to countless wrong address forced entries.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Grenade to the crib seems to be the new cop basketball.

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[-] ThisIsMyLemmyLogin@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

So they were targeting another baby?

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

If only this was the first time.... The exact same thing happened just a few years ago.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Ring should use this as a marketing tool.

Too bad Ring (and Amazon) give police access to the videos.

[-] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Watch this turn into a Ready or Not level.

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