Remember kids, if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't theft.
Gamers says CEOs need to get comfortable not having a subscription model for their sales to take off.
Nope. We refuse. But fuck you for asking.
I don't know. A lot of people seem willing to pay for battle passes, which is already halfway there.
It was good to see a little bit of resistance this year and particularly the success of BG3, but I'm concerned that the overall trend is negative. Any publisher beholden to investors will be under strong pressure to monetize, monetize, monetize.
All I can do is not give them money, but someone else probably will.
Yeah, people in this thread are saying this is absurd and nobody will go along with it, like have they met gamers from outside Lemmy?
In the wider world, people think I'm insane for not loving Microsoft's game subscription service. Even here and on Reddit I've received flak for not wanting games as a subscription service. It's weird.
Game subscriptions will happen. The wider market, unfortunately, loves the idea of paying a monthly fee to play games.
As long as they get comfortable with the idea of if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing.
Maybe I am just an old nostalgic fart but I have games that I own that are over 30 years old that I still have access to and regularly play and that's how I like it.
I personally don't at all see any benefit to the consumer that subscription based gaming provides. Arguably you can access more games for less money, but if video streaming is anything to go by (increased prices, less content across more and more services, ads creeping back in etc), that value proposition won't last long.
The benefits are not meant for the consumer.
We even have the current streaming services as examples, that's why Ubisoft are greedy for getting people to subscribe.
Game streaming services will eventually be:
- Fragmented: You will need to have multiple subscriptions to play the games you want.
- Games will disappear without notice (We already see this on app-stores).
- Prices will be jacked up at a whim, and premium tier plans will be added.
- And as the pièce de résistance: Full of ads.
I dunno man, I get a pretty solid sense of pride and accomplishment after pirating a thing, so I think I’ll stick with that.
The fact that some people are ok with, "subscriptions taking off" in this very post is troubling.
The future, where you own nothing, pay a subscription for everything.
i'm so excited for the fucking subscription fad to die. people have gotta get sick of it at some point right? what could be enticing enough to replace it for both corps and users?
I am quite comfortable with not owning any ubisoft games. It's a kind of comfort that comes easily when one doesn't pay ubisoft any money for anything.
Screw these guys.
Why can’t they release the server code or whatever so the community can keep playing the games. I’ve got a bunch of games that I can no longer play because there’s no servers. There was a community attempt at putting something together, they were working from scratch, but it seems to have failed.
The devs won’t support it, but they won’t let anyone play with the abandonware either. Took their ball and went home.
ubisoft should get comfortable with people just not buying their crap at all.
I'd rather remain comfortable not buying games from Ubisoft and EA.
I refuse to waste a single dollar on every game from both companies, since we were all bent over and continue to get bent over because they just don't care about anything but making more money.
A good example from Ubisoft is the handling of the Driver series. They kept on releasing the games in the series in a near unplayable state before when most people had dial up.
A good example with EA was the failed DRM with Spore. They only let you install the game 3 times, which glitched out to the point where people had to turn to piracy (warez and crackz) to play a game they paid for.
We vote with every dollar spent, which gives me hope when people rally around good companies that do the right thing.
I like how in this article the greedy cunt is talking about consumers just getting used to the idea of not owning the game being okay because they'll keep their progress and can come back to their game any time. Like we haven't seen media disappear off streaming services all the time. Like nobody has ever fallen on hard times and had to cut ongoing costs. Fuck off.
Literally the debate is happening because games and media have vanished... including Ubisoft games!
gamers will need to get “comfortable” not owning their games before video game subscriptions truly take off.
So subscriptions won't take off if we demand to own what we buy? I accept those terms.
If it ain't a sale, it's not piracy.
Counterpoint: I dont fucking want subscription services to take off. I want to pay for the game I'm gonna play and only the game I'm gonna play.
Game Pass is going gangbusters. A monthly fee to play shitloads of games, including first party titles at launch, with a discount on purchasing those games if I decide I want them? Awesome.
I think the problem is you, Ubisoft. No one trusts you. And you keep releasing the same game.
I don't know what planet he's on but we already don't really own our games. Hell if Steam goes down I'm going to lose access to pretty much everything.
The problem is more that I don't trust Ubisoft to not change the terms of the agreement halfway through. I can totally see them pulling a rockstar and getting rid of an old version of the game if they decide they want to do an HD release.
That's funny. It's been years since I gave Ubisoft any money and I'm perfectly comfortable.
Ubisoft exec, you should get comfortable sucking our collective dicks
And if anyone needed to know whether these companies are run by entitled idiots, this is the proof.
No.
One more reason why it’s morally acceptable and necessary to torrent Ubisoft games
Ubisoft executives need to get comfortable being unemployed.
Fucking, brain dead tool.
Thank whatever is sacred to you that these mindless drones picked video games. Have no doubt that it this same person hadn't flunked out of medical school, they'd be running a chain of hospitals somewhere saying, "patients need to just get used to bleeding more and for longer to support our profit model".
Ubisoft needs to get comfortable with fucking off with their launcher bullshit or I will never ever buy their games again
The Ubisoft exect can kindly fuck himself with a cactus.
Fuck Ubisoft executives.
Subscribe to my nuts Ubisoft
If I don't own the games I bought them piracy isn't stealing. It goes both ways fuckers.
I am very comfortable not owning ubisoft games, because I am not buying them. :)
Every company that is hostile towards their own customer will soon have no customer (hopefully, lol).
I’m already VERY comfortable not having any Ubisoft games! ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
I really don't need a subscription service to give me access to even more games that I'll just launch and play for about 20 minutes before I go back to playing battlefield 4
Not really, Ubisoft.
Much like music, movies and TV, you just need to make sure your content is both available for purchase for people who don't want a subscription and consistently available on a subscription service for those that do.
It's when you start fucking around and taking them off again because somebody else is offering you more for exclusivity that we get pissed off and just pirate things. You can't expect Assassin's Creed Black Flag to still be making you a noticeable amount of money, but a subscriber can rightfully expect it to be on your service.
I'm of the opinion that if a game is on a subscription service, be it PSN or Game Pass, then it should stay there except in very extreme circumstances. A game can take weeks to play through, and it's only going to take one large game going AWOL at 90% completion for me to sour on the whole idea.
As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don't lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That's not been deleted. You don't lose what you've built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it's about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.
Yeah, you know I don't lose my game either saved on my CPU or Xbox with a copy of the game I don't have to pay for more than once for a predetermined value.
Snarky comments and people joking about Ubisoft's practices but in reality many if not most will simply accept that, spread their butt-cheeks and prepare for all the shoddy practices to be rammed up their ass. Once they get one foot in the door it's just incremental steps from there, be it visual downgrades, selling experience boosters for games they made slower on purpose, day one DLCs, pre-orders, special editions, accounts for "offline" game, etc. Anything goes if they can squeeze another dollar from their customers. There's a message stronger than words when Ubisoft is constantly voted most hated company and yet remains one of the biggest.
Not sure what to tell you masochistic fans but Eves said spread the cheeks some more, there's nothing else for you to do obviously. Bend over.
I’m already confident with having 0 Ubisoft games in my library.
Ubisoft needs to get used to me never buying their repetative lazy games every again.
What a shame. FC3, 4 and primal are some of my favorite games..
Subscriptions are taking off, just not Ubisoft subscriptions because most of their games are derivative shit.
And personally I don't have an objection with the concept of subscription as an option. It's no worse than streaming music or videos, or renting a DVD / VHS back when. But whatever the service is will have to have a LOT of content, not just back catalogue but new stuff too with fair & reasonable terms for people to want to subscribe. If Ubisoft wants to ever see its stuff streamed it will have to be as part of some other, better service than the one they offer that's for sure.
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