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[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 88 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If paying full price and obtaining a digital copy isn't ownership, then taking that digital copy without paying can't be stealing can it?

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I legit wonder what would happen if this argument is used ( in a professional way by a professional lawyer ) in a court of law. Like, could this legit be argued to be the same?

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't see it going well but I'd love to see it happen. "One rule for ye, another for me" and all that

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[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m not sure how you drew this conclusion, since most people I know consider paying full price to obtain a digital copy to be extremely close to ownership.

I liked Telltale’s Law and Order series. They can’t sell it anymore, but I can still download my digital copy because I bought it full price.

The whole argument in the article is about monthly subscription rentals.

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[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 87 points 2 years ago

Oh I'm very comfortable with it. In fact I haven't owned a Ubisoft game in many, many years, and I wasn't about to change that.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They should get comfortable with me downloading cracked versions of their games.

The developers that come out and tell people "pirate our game and if you like it consider buying when you can" will always get my money.

Developers who tell us we own nothing and should be pleased about it can get my steel and cannonballs, cause this ship is ready to set sail.

[–] Beardedsausag3@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

A-fucken-hoy matey! 🏴‍☠️ May the seas bless your sails today.

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[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If your games are on steam, you're already not owning them. The only difference seems to be that steam doesn't demand a monthly subscription cost, yet

We already have game pass so it's not like this is something completely new either.

If this makes money, other big publishers will join and in 10 years it's the norm.

Personally, I'll try my best to keep buying on GOG and itch.io where I get to actually own my games.

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Agree, I own a lot of games in Steam but most come from bundles or were not bought a full price. I do buy full price games on GOG because I can have a backup offline.

[–] SendMeYourInk@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The only difference is a huge difference though. Pay once for a game that you can access anytime versus paying continuously for the rest of your life to keep access to a game.

Some games are not worth keeping access to and subscription may end up being cheaper, but it is trading one benefit for another.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The only difference seems to be that steam doesn’t demand a monthly subscription cost, yet

Which Ubisoft isn't doing either. This is just Ubisoft's gamepass style subscription, which has been available for a few years now, it's just getting a 2 tier pricing model.

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[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago

Oh, fear not Ubisoft, I'm perfectly comfortable never owning any of your games again. Ever. Eat shit.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well I'm comfortable not buying any of theirs. They're in my steam ignore list along with EA 🖕🖕

Ubisoft disable multiplayer in games like splinter cell and then have the nerve to charge you 20 ducats for a 10 year old game with only half the gameplay requiring a shitty launcher and with glaring bugs that they just didn't bother to address.

As for the future. There is still emulation. So stock up 😉

I’m comfortable with not “owning” the games I pirate.

Your move, Ubisoft.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago

I want ubisoft to be comfortable with me not playing their games.

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We already don’t own our games, because we can’t sell them. We used to be able to sell and exchange games, but with digital platforms like steam, we don't have the right to sell them anymore, meaning we only bought the right to play the game, not owning it.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You still can, that’s why - outside of a few exceptions - I only buy console games on disc, and sell them later

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (33 children)

If buying isn't ownership then piracy isn't theft.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

It's rather amusing how everything people fear happening under communism comes to pass under capitalism in one way or another. Turns out that it is the capitalists who aim to strip individuals of their personal property by transforming everything into a rental service. You see, you no longer possess your media, books, computer, phone, or any other device; they've all been transformed into internet-connected subscriptions. The moment you cease paying or when the company decides to discontinue its services, you find yourself in quite an unfortunate predicament.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

This is the direction the big companies are looking to move in. This is the direction Microsoft is banking on, too. Even if you like one service more, the end result may be the same. It's a matter of time before we see subscription exclusives.

GamePass subscribers are the pre-orderers and mtx consumers of yesteryear, normalizing the industry to practices harmful to general consumers.

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

They already fucked me on this years ago. One day I logged into Uplay and Battlefield 3 and my 2 other games were just fucking gone. Haven't touched them with a 10 foot pole since.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

What Ubi wants means fuck all to me. Yall wanted us to buy NFT guns too, see how that worked out...

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

I've been quite comfortable with not owning any new Ubisoft games for a few years now

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

Piracy is a very noble endeavor to keep alive. Thank you Ubisoft for keeping us on our toes instead of being complacent with trusting digital platforms. Piracy is the true preservation and ownership.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I'm quite comfortable not owning Ubisoft games, and have been for years. It helps that other than one Switch game that I have physically, they haven't released anything really worth purchasing.

[–] FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Has any of the rapists or apologists in ubisoft had any repercussions yet?

Then i am not interested in their games anyway.

[–] windowsphoneguy@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, apparently I don't own The Crew 1 anymore.

[–] hazle@gehirneimer.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agree, I own a lot of games in Steam but most come from bundles or were not bought a full price. I do buy full price games on GOG because I can have a backup offline. hack score match 2023

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

I bought a copy of Riders Republic on PS4. Before that, I hadn't played a Ubisoft game since AC1. I'm quite comfortable continuing that track record.

[–] Sivick314@universeodon.com 2 points 2 years ago

@ylai fuck ubisoft. They haven't made a decent game since black flag.

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