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[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 106 points 11 months ago

People's Park was a major local landmark with a long history that is well known to students, faculty, residents, and alumni. It had become a home to otherwise homeless people whose existence was inconvenient for the university's expansion plans and an eyesore to arrogant passersby.

The park's history includes both civil and violent disobedience, including against the university itself.

It would not be surprising to hear that, whatever is built on this lot, it is subsequently destroyed by an act of arson or other vandalism.

I am surprised they are taking the risk and making the investment at all. IMO it would have been safer to just buy some of the private properties surrounding the park instead, even at a premium.

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 months ago

A handful of Molotov's at night once a week during construction can make it very expensive to build something.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Sugar will completely eliminate concrete’s ability to cure. A single pound of sugar can destroy an entire truck of wet cement.

Not that I’m advocating for it. But it’s laughably easy to sneak onto a site with a hardhat, safety boots and a vest, and sabotage active construction.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Neat: https://fritzpak.com/is-sugar-a-good-concrete-retarder/

Although I'm unsure about the pound of sugar to entire cement truck claim.

[-] ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah, a cement truck is like 45,000 lbs of concrete, which is .002%. Apparently .06% will delay setting by 90 minutes, so it's more like 30 pounds?

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[-] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago

I low-key wish I could put you and @deegeese@sopuli.xyz in a jar and shake it.

In the nicest way.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 months ago

It’s a controversial local issue and in my lifetime I’ve seen local opinion shift from strongly anti-University to now mostly in favor of development.

I credit this to the original activists dying of old age, combined with a younger generation that has never known the park as anything except a place where people overdose in tents.

[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Haha, their take is pretty charged but it's valid imo.

[-] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

They're building student and homeless housing on it and leaving half the park.

[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Oh, that's probably going to mitigate some of the risk. Hey, maybe it'll be enough!

[-] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 79 points 11 months ago
[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 72 points 11 months ago

Berkeley wants to turn the park into housing and I guess they hope the wall will keep protesters out.

[-] gnate@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

Surround the park with shipping containers, and done! It is now 100% dystopia appropriate housing!

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Berkeley wants to turn the park where homeless people are staying into housing for homeless and undergraduates... While refreshing 60% of the park.

Why are people upset about housing homeless and undergrads? Is this some NIMBY shit but people dont think it's NIMBY because it's their park this time?

https://peoplesparkhousing.berkeley.edu/

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Obviously people are upset because public space is being taken away for this.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Berkeley is a public school. They’re building government housing. But, it doesn’t matter to the groups who see outrage as a virtue and stall the progress they neverendingly clamor for.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yes... That's what NIMBYism is.

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[-] crsu@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago

If you ever notice construction is stalled in your city, it's because it's a racket.

They low bid the contract.

They take contract.

Work stops because they didn't ask for enough money.

They're already there, it'd cost too much to fire them or move their supplies and equipment. They know this so they drag their feet until the client pays more.

Construction begins again.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 113 points 11 months ago

I work in construction insurance, protecting the government and investors against construction companies that do this. Our underwriters study the project, the construction company history and everything related and we qoute a price that the construction company should pay even before the government or the investors transfer anything. If the construction company or the project fail for any reason we take control over the project and find a new construction company to complete it. After that, our lawyers go after everything owned by the construction company and their executives to try to recoup anything we can.

[-] throw4w4y5@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago

fucking based.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I'm curious about your opinion on what the reason that construction takes longer and costs more in the US than in other countries is.

[-] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago

I wish our construction was like in Japan. Instead we have the worst, slowest companies in the Chicago area. How does it take months or even years to fix a road AND they start a new project a mile away on the same road at the same speed. Then somehow the road end up bumpy anyway cause they didn't fix around the manhole covers correctly.

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I visit friends in Chicago every year. There's a place on the interstate that has been under construction for 5 years. It's just like one lane they've been paving. What the heck?

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[-] Shialac@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Every public construction in germany ever

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[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago

The shipping containers make it so much more dystopian, and calling it “The People’s Park” is just bad writing, even for schlocky YA fiction.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

Even more dystopian if you know the park's history

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I do, but I was writing from the perspective that it was invented for the Hunger Games.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry, I didn't intend to imply that you didn't.

[-] Damdy@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
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[-] hikikoma@ani.social 34 points 11 months ago

So this is why all the third places have dissappeared, greed? Man, fuck this dystopia.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Parents tell their kids to go play outside, without looking at the "outside" they've created.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago
[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

New paintball arena just dropped.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

fascinating hunger games is having such a cultural resurgence given how shitty everything in our world is. i love the series but christ every scene is dark and depressing

[-] effward@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Didn't a new Hunger Games movie just hit theaters? I assumed most of this stuff was a result of their marketing campaign..

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[-] Feirdro@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Feels prescient, at the moment

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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago

I cannot wait until they finally pave over that violent shithole.

People’s Park supporters have their heads so far up their asses they can’t smell the meth’d up rapists that have kept anyone else from enjoying this “park”

[-] LemmySoloHer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

May the odds be ever in your favor.

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Gives me infamous vibes.

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