Can't just let the common folk run amok.
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Religion fucks everything up always
Nah, only 99.99% of the time. :)
(I think Sikhs are generally an exception - those folks seem to largely have doing good things figured out pretty well. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I sure haven't heard of any)
To be fair this culture of overworking yourself to a point of counterproductivity like that isn't exclusive to America. Japan and Korea come to mind as being even worse. But yeah, seriously, that's no excuse.
i work a 30-35 hour a week job. everyone i meet tells me i'm a lazy piece of shit and i need to be working 60 hour weeks.
mostly because they are bitter and jealous. I'm also financially secure... and they aren't... even if they make 2-3x what I do.
I'm pretty sure they learned that from the US though.
No, Japan and Korea learned it from their monarchy and modesty.
I wish it was just 'that godforsaken country'. I wish.
So many Americans think it all started in 1620 with the Mayflower landing at Plymouth Rock, when in fact 13 years earlier it began with the first permanent English settlement at Jamestown, Virginia. And we gloss over the beginning of slavery in American in 1619. Yes, slavery beat the famous religious landing by a whole year.
So our revisionist history started very early.
Because Jamestown wasn't permanent, it failed. almost everyone died. there was nothing great about it.
There were other settlements that failed, we also don't talk about them.
Plymouth was a much bigger success.
Well you actually have to read the papers and report on them accurately. There is no simple answer to the homework debate because actually it depends a lot on the details. A 6-year-old is very different from a 16-year-old, for example...
It turns out that some people in America actually pay attention to details, to nuance, to effective implementation. Of course many don't, including the creator of this particular graphic.
yeah it depends on the quality of the homework and instruction generally.... but we dont' want to talk about that because that's difficult to turn into a number.
not to mention... some folks simple take forever to do homework and others don't based on intelligencet and study habits. I never had more than an hour or two of homework a night, and I was in advanced course of study. But i regretted in college... not having more/harder courses, but i went to a shitty school... so there was no option to have more rigorous courses.
Actually the homework debate does have a simple answer, the older you get the less effective it is. Not to mention it was created as a punishment in like, 1097 or some shit.
You can cultivate attention to detail without killing someone's social skills.
That simple answer is a dramatic generalisation.
School is a place to store children so adults can work. It just so happens to also be a decent place to learn. Remember the order of priorities
School also is a way to force children to get used to factory schedules from industrialism
Schools are also a place to expose kids to topics and resources their households may not be able to afford to show them. Schools provide a large range to topics for which students can discover their interest/strengths. They provide initial structure to build to those dreams.
Without schools, most kids would just be learning to do whatever their parents do. That would be the only education they'd have.
Schools also give you the opportunity to learn how to interact with your peers
What factories run from 9am to 3pm ?
More like schools developed strict schedules during industrialization and it was more society adapting even children to all being at the right room at the same time, all taking lunch at the same time, obeying a strict hierarchy without question, not leaving until the exact allowed time.
Oh, gee... at the time parents started working at specific times schools started scheduling at specific times.
Wow. You've really cracked the case on those capitalist swine.
My kids are presently "stored" at day care so I can work. It's a great environment for them, playing with their peers and learning things. What's so terrible about that?
They could be working.
Nothing. But there's a reason western governments offer daycare subsidies as well.
What could that reason be? Could it possibly be so that populations are more productive? That's so nefarious! How dare they support me to work.
I never said it was nefarious. An anatomy book isn't nefarious for naming all of the bones in the human body. You're bringing your preconceptions to my incredibly dry quips and descriptions.
You're bringing your dry quips to a thread where idiots are saying the purpose if school is to support capitalism or some such.
I mean, it is. But that's a uselessly broad, unfocused statement, like "coffee beans are killing giraffes." A system perpetuates itself or it fails. Schools both yield new workers and temporarily free them of obligations so that they can work.
Looking at impact and assessing whether it aligns with your intended lifestyle Is far more useful than internet slap fighting
How is this an American priority problem? This is, like, (with some exceptions) a worldwide approach to schooling. European schools start early too, Asian schools still have homework.... It's a world priority problem?
British schools don't start that early, mine was like ten to nine.
Life should be a challenge. It's good for your character. - Rich nepo-babies, with no character.
I worked hard to earn my money and my place! - same nepo baby
It is not puritanical, it's labour slavers. Neither work nor school exists for our benefit. They both exist to benefit the powerful and they will reshape both to manage their power as they see fit.
Who the hell is evoking the Puritans?!
Don't say that word three times in a mirror.
Don't forget profits. Stocks go brrrr.
It’s incredible how little historical/geographic context that Americans maintain.
The purpose is to make Americans dumber in public schools. It has nothing to do with puritanical whatever the fuck.
Americans are too dumb now to even know WHY they’re dumb. 🥰😂🍿
And dumb idiots like yourself are too stupid to realize it's both. Many Republicans literally believe "work is prayer" and that "idle hands are the devil's workshop". This is a thing taught to the poor and the wealthy in countless churches.
Maybe next time you want to bash people you actually know what you're talking about.
One is the result of the other, not "it's both".
...nothing to do with puritanical...
I thought so too and that they were incorrectly referring to Protestant work ethic. Turns out to be the same thing.
The Protestant work ethic, also known as the Calvinist work ethic or the Puritan work ethic, is a work ethic concept in the social sciences, particularly sociology, economics, and history. It emphasizes that a person's subscription to the values espoused by the Protestant faith, particularly Calvinism, results in diligence, discipline, and frugality.
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Those with the ethic believed that good fortune (e.g. from hard work) is a vindication of God in this life
Still dumb to say that hard work is good because it is hard but some bad ideas die slowly.