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Protesilaos aka "Prot" is a well-known member of the Emacs community, being the author of several popular packages. I unfortunately just learned about an anti-feminist rant he posted to his website 5 days ago (Sep 5). I don't want to link it, but it is easily found if you desire.

His philosophy just sucks, he's not as smart as he thinks he is, he's stuck arguing with himself over his own abstractions

In short, he equates feminism with individualism in order to "prove" that feminism and socialism don't mix (and he doesn't like socialism anyway)

shut the fuck up Prot

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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Assume everyone you meet is an unhinged fascist and you'll never be disappointed. If you're in The West, you're going to be right at least 3/4 of the time.

That stranger on the street? He only doesn't directly quote Hitler daily because he's too illiterate to read Mein Kampf.

Your parents? Irredeemable.

Your favorite author? Posting shocking screeds on 4chan.

Your neighbours? They have a Confederate flag in their basement.

You? Haven't read theory.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago

you? Haven’t read theory.

vegeta-pain

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Not all of it, but I try

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

I think authors usually put screeds on bluesky or substack nowadays, which is not much better tbf.


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[–] lilypad@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This man is politically illiterate... I'm reading it and just... Wtf? Does he even know what hes saying? Genuinely, cause like, he starts from an (incorrect) axiom, and then derives inane nonsense based on... Something? I can't figure out his logic. He makes leaps and bounds without anything to inform them, his drivel isnt worth reading I'm stopping after a few paragraphs but good god damn.

Sucks tho. I dont use his packages but people said they were good. Fuck him.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Grey tribe/neoractionary/fascist writing is almost always like this. They don't operate at one level, they're constantly trying to incorporate information at smaller and bigger scales that don't work together: various crime statistics, various anecdotes about women in their life, Greek tragedies, music lyrics, online memes, etc. They create this tapestry that seems convincing because it has all these supporting examples to people who already want to believe but to anyone who's skeptical it's scattered and nonsensical.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

I had a friend who wrote like this but fortunately he stuck to episode recaps of Lost, where it was almost appropriate.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

I also can't follow his writing; what point is he trying to make exactly? It all just reads like conservative rambling that comes off as very egotistical.

I dont use his packages but people said they were good.

The only package of his I use is Modus themes, but that's because they're included in Emacs.

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 8 points 3 weeks ago

I read through most of it and totally agree with your analysis. Politically illerate is a nice way to put it, but those conclusions are something else.

[–] RondoRevolution@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

FLOSS devs try not to be fascists challenge (impossible)

(Yeah I'm exaggerating, I know there's plenty of cool people too)

[–] SockOlm@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Never trust FOSS nerds (unless they're explicitly leftist)

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

men are from emacs, women are from vi monkey-typewriter - prot probably

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

ed is the standard text editor very-smart

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

Happened to me with someone who was a friend of mine for years, I thought they were cool but then something happened when we were hanging out & suddenly I was seeing this whole side of them that I'd never seen before (being strongly pro cop). Like I don't hide my views, people who know me know what I'm about so it was pretty shocking to see them expressing that kind of shit & being surprised when I pushed back.

It fucking sucks to find out someone who you thought was cool is anything but

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The post ends with a section on how the Islamic prophet Muhammad understood family and how Christians are slowly unraveling in debauchery because he lives near a working class Syrian family of refugees.

Just put the defun in the bag kitty-birthday-sad

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

lol what? I made it through almost the entire post and somehow missed that at the very end. Wild

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

It always sucks when someone like this turns out to be a shithead. Recently in the PS Vita modding community, the dude who runs the main homebrew/port Database was in his discord ranting about how he wants to shoot immigrant babies

[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Noo prot why 😭 i really like all the stuff he makes and how much effort he is putting into things

[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Get some actual theory in this guy how is this supposed philosopher talking about socialism and feminism without being aware of diamat 😤

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He’s a Greek Cypriot, he talks about dialectics but in the Socratic sense lenin-dont-laugh

[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

For example https://protesilaos.com/books/2020-09-30-ethos-dialectic/

The Dialectician’s Ethos

2020-09-30

Dialectic is an inter-personal experience: a rigorous dialogical process where parties to an argument exchange views in pursuit of the common objective of approximating the truth. Socrates used the dialectical method in this exact way: a certain kind of targeted conversation.

To effectively and consistently partake in dialectic, one must have developed several virtues.

They must be honest. To stand by their arguments, recognise any possible mistake of theirs, not misrepresent the other side’s positions, not employ rhetorical tricks, not assume malevolence in the opposing side’s propositions or act in bad faith, and the like.

You can see how he embodies this honesty in practice /s

[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Oh dear, yeah I see what you meant

[–] mattdaemon@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Never meet your heroes :(

[–] opiumfree@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

it hurts so bad because i assume everybody who has our politics is a safe harbor but thats not true

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Reactionary brain worms go deep. It's one of the most frustrating parts of organizing for me. Just time and time again having to patiently swallow that garbage so they "feel heard," and only then trying to explain/educate why they shouldn't hate their fellow worker for things they've been programmed to hate but actually have zero impact on their lives. Even in socialist spaces you'll see it crop up again and again.

Sorry you had to deal with it explicitly recently. Solidarity.