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The US and China are competing for global leadership in artificial intelligence as the technology rapidly advances. Photo: Shutterstock

The United States should start preparing for scenarios where extreme measures must be taken to stop China from achieving artificial general intelligence (AGI), according to a former White House official, including state-backed espionage and military strikes on Chinese data centres.

Jacob Stokes, deputy director of the Indo-Pacific Security Program at the Centre for a New American Security (CNAS), said at an online event on Thursday that various US agencies, including the Department of Defense and the National Security Agency, should begin assessing what intelligence they need to justify taking such actions.

“Trying to think through the particulars of that will be especially important, in part because it will help policymakers … start to work backwards based on the unique nature of the technology, in the same way that in a past era, policymakers would learn about nuclear weapons and … work backwards from the science to the policy implications,” he said.

In a new CNAS report published last week, the former Obama administration national security staffer called for the US government to consider the feasibility of diplomatic, espionage, cyber and kinetic measures to prevent China from achieving AGI first.

AGI is a hypothetical AI system that can achieve human levels of performance across a wide variety of tasks. The report, titled “Superpowers and AGI”, explores how the imminent arrival of AGI might affect US-China geopolitical competition.

The US currently enjoys a months-long lead over China in frontier AI models, according to Epoch AI. However, China could make a “surprise technological breakthrough” that means it is close to achieving or achieves AGI first, Stokes wrote, citing China’s advances in areas such as robotics and other forms of “embodied AI”.

If this were the case, the US government should consider extreme actions such as military strikes on the data centres that train and run the Chinese AGI system, Stokes wrote, including preventive strikes before China develops AGI.

As AI technology grows in importance economically and militarily, the data centres that form the backbone of the AI industry have emerged as military targets. In March, Iran bombed Amazon data centres in the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain as part of its conflict with the US.

According to Stokes, US government agencies would have to work out what facilities to attack and with which weapons, while considering the risk that the strikes lead to a general war between the two countries.

William Hartung, an arms analyst at the Project on Government Oversight, a Washington non-profit organisation, also warned that any strikes on Chinese data centres would “risk starting a shooting war between two nuclear armed powers that could have tragic consequences for all concerned”.

“Striking Chinese data centres based on how they might or might not be used in the future would be the height of recklessness,” he said.

Another option would be to reverse engineer or “steal” China’s AGI technology, Stokes wrote, which would be justified “legally and normatively” because of China’s own alleged history of stealing US intellectual property.

However, he noted that the US government and intelligence apparatus have “not been organised for espionage to gather technological secrets for decades”.

The stark assessment comes as US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping are set to have talks in Washington later this month on AI governance as the technology continues to improve, posing growing risks to national and global security.

The “best case scenario” for the talks is that the two sides find the talks “constructive”, Stokes said on Thursday, rather than any expectations of any breakthroughs on key governance issues.

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[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 56 points 2 days ago

US urged to consider military strikes to stop China gathering all 7 Dragon balls

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

US urged to consider military strikes to... stop China achieving AGI first

michael-laugh they really actually believed the bullshit marketing of their AI CEOs

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

Marx developed a whole ass critique of Capital and did his utmost to steel man it and present it in the most ideal circumstances to give an accurate model and criticism of its horrors.

Meanwhile, in real life, these dumb shits in charge of the commanding heights of the economy fall hook line and sinker for an obvious used car salesman's elevator pitch on perpetual motion machines

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 110 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

We must start a war with a nuclear armed peer power, for we on the precipice of losing the magic bean race. I have credible intel that the devious celestial menace is on the precipice of inventing a magical genie, or perhaps stealing our magical genie that silicon valley insists exists but quite infuriatingly will not let me see. The only acceptable solution is nuclear war. We cannot allow a magic bean gap to occur.

This is a real danger and I am a very serious person who should influence what the professional violence men of the imperial death and horror machine do.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 64 points 3 days ago

china is inventing akinator cardboard-monsters

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 53 points 3 days ago

We cannot allow a magic bean gap to occur.

beanis-salute

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remain unconvinced that the US is actually a peer power to China. They are perhaps a peer power to Iran.

The only thing the US military has is a large stockpile of nukes.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I remain unconvinced that the US is actually a peer power to China. They are perhaps a peer power to Iran.

The US is willing to fight to the last non Epstein class American. That's the difference. And this includes all Americans irrespective of race although the US elite is definitely more inclined to feed particular groups into the meat grinder first.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 27 points 3 days ago

If we wave a white tee shirt with one hand and a "liberate me" sign with another, can we have belts, roads, education and healthcare?

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

He previously served in the White House on the national security staff of then–Vice President Joe Biden, where Stokes was senior advisor to the national security advisor, as well as acting special advisor to the vice president for Asia policy. He has also worked in the U.S. Congress as a professional staff member for the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission and as a foreign and defense policy advisor for Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN).

This is the guy, by the way. Currently deputy director of a neocon think tank.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The "AGI is coming" propaganda getting real creative lol

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 56 points 3 days ago

Wait, the predictive text generator isn’t intelligent just because it wraps some of the text in tags?

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago

Mr President, we cannot allow a slop gap!

Imagine getting dragged into a war against the nuclear powered good guys by the most corrupt, stupid, and cruel people imaginable. They entered the healthcare debate with a pro-disease stance and want you to hurt people who decided homes aren't for speculation. Like you have to drive to a base to get shipped off to fight someone who has access to high speed rail. You're charged with setting up the tactical burger king deployment and they do wage theft afterwards.

You can't be fucking serious.

[–] Dagadashko@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago

Blood fiend from the Blood Institute: US should pursue more slaughter, bloodletting

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Military strikes against China with what

Y'all just withdrew the last carrier from the Pacific

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Amerikkka truly is a rabid dog. You can't negotiate with it. You must beat it to death with a stick before it can do a lot of damage.

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[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 64 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Jacob Stokes, deputy director of the Indo-Pacific Security Program at the Centre for a New American Security (CNAS) […] the former Obama administration national security staffer called for the US government to consider the feasibility of […] kinetic measures to prevent China from achieving AGI first.

i-cant

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

vote it’s the only way to get Lake Ontario and the Gulf of Mexico’s names fixed!

{|what, were you expecting something more than that to change?}

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 59 points 3 days ago

This entire fucking country is just racism and unga bunga smash

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

On a slightly encouraging note, you can see that capitalists are trying their damndest to make thjs the new red scare, but your average prole couldn’t care less. I’ve only heard this rhetoric about “needing to beat China” being touted by mid-level management/MBA-types

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've heard it touted by higher level software engineers.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

Well yeah, they're the ones literally posting whinnie the pooh memes on Redfit.

[–] IranOuttaOil@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago

But those mid-level management types are the perfect target for this narrative, as they direct the working class.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 48 points 3 days ago

I hope one day we can discover general human intelligence.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 56 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Why are Americans incapable of finding solutions to problems that don't involve killing the problem

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 54 points 3 days ago

You would take away their founding principles?!? catgirl-disgust

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know, but i'm going to start killing people until I find out!

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I got a very American solution for this shit! Anytime some think tank suggests we just have a nice little WWIII and destroy all life on earth, we round them up and do America things to them!

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

should begin assessing what intelligence they need to justify taking such actions.

it will help policymakers … start to work backwards based on the unique nature of the technology, in the same way that in a past era, policymakers would learn about nuclear weapons and … work backwards from the science to the policy implications

So invent a reason to be afraid? This is the tactic here? "We need to be afraid of this so let's see if we can create a reason to be afraid"?

You know ironically this really is ENTIRELY akin to the right wing youtube grift; they create boogeymen and then try to convince you to be afraid of that boogeymen THEY CREATED

So when we the government does something stupid, their argument is 'look at this terrifying figment of our imagination, isn't it horrifying? We need to make sure our fanfic of the real world never happens!'

Who's hiring these idiots? You can put a suit on them and give them a clean haircut but there's functionally no difference between these yobs and some idiot loser on tiktok talking about black people in traditionally white roles being intended to do away with white people

[–] christian@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

The phrasing in your first quote is really something to marvel at. Justify to who?

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But I was told capitalism encourages and welcomes competition

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

China is cheating because uhhhhh, government funds and directs sectors!!

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Guys, If we bomb the nuclear armed superpower, surely nothing will happen to us" holden-bloodfeast

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Suddenly billionaires getting bunkers seems to indicate they're not waiting for something but planning something instead

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[–] lurker_supreme@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am urging China to level Washington D.C. and perhaps New York City

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

knight-nod data centers are fair targets, I’m sure there’s some close enough to justify New York, and obviously the capitol of a terrorist state is perfectly justified.

The truth is coming out ai is being rushed out as a super weapon to cripple chinas economy with massive hack capabilities. Every accusation is a confession.

[–] Renin@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People think China is weak because they engage in diplomacy, if you so much as try to enslave them again I'm confident they will erase you from history. No one will remember you in a million years and China will still be here.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Don't forget the option of using the military against the US bond market to make it lower interest rates. Maybe do that one first.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-suggests-military-bond-markets-222513278.html

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[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The US will stuff LLM 'AI' into a humanoid robot that can shit its pants, and the hype crew will call it AGI, then they'll be forced to call what was formerly 'AGI' something silly like 'Omniscient 'AI'' (OAI) or even do away with 'AI' as an abbreviation entirely because the marketing has burnt it through.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile China will have sensibily integrated their cheaper more effective models into their logistics and supply systems and will be achieving levels of Gosplan a Soviet Statistician would weep tears of joy over.

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