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There's an argument that could be made for Iroquoia or Haudenosaunee. The Iroquois Confederacy was an alliance of five different native tribes who cooperated and jointly made decisions for hundreds of years before European colonists arrived, and that confederacy did serve as a point of reference when the earliest drafts of the Constitution were being written.
That said, the US is absolutely massive and there are way too many tribes with different languages and cultures. No one word is going to be a good fit for everything.
A lot of indigenous in Australia have adopted "Country" - there's small c country, which is the standard geographical meaning eg: Australia as a whole, then there's big C Country, which basically means "this place where we have gathered for this occasion" (hence Welcome to Country, which has the bonus of making dickhead recidivists foam at the mouth and fall over themselves demonstrating their own poor literacy skills)
How do you say shit hole in Iroquois?
Another user said 'Turtle Island' - I'm voting for that too! I just love that name to bits! 🥰🐢🤗
Turtle island is the indigenous name for the whole of the continent though. Similar to how they already call themselves America I guess lol.
Maybe Turtle-Head Island.
New England.
Canada's Head.
Mexico's Hair.
Canadas butt
As the head, Mexico is the beard. As the butt... Well... Kinda insulting to Mexico.
Not really, as legs they get to walk away
Dumbfuckistan
Fuck Trump in any native american language will suffice
The Turd Reich
Canada
That is an indigenous word.
I think theyre saying it should all be called Canada (meaning settlement) including present day US.
People's Democratic Republic of North America
How about Federal United Corporation of Kingdom States
*Corporate Kingdom Of States
The Of is capitalised. Very important
Sponsored by…?
Brawndo
Burgertory
I've long been a fan of Turtle Island.
YES! - I love that idea too! 👌✅🤗
kʷədub swatixʷtəd
Means stolen land in Lushootseed. But, any native language, or all native languages would be acceptable.
We can abbreviate it to K-Dub! Or maybe kʷə for those either have an expanded keyboard or are willing to copy-paste or find the superscript tool in whatever app they’re using or whatever. Kind of like how people shorten the country’s full name to America or the USA or the U.S.
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Any pointer to an audio-file for that phrase?
The Internet says this is the phonetic pronunciation
kwuh-doob swah-tee-hw-tuhd
Which is absolutely worthless, especially if it is based on English pronunciation, which is basically random. That's why I was asking for an audio file.
Bro how the fuck is that supposed to help me pronounce it?
This is exactly the type of answer I was hoping to see a lot more of. Stuff actually in native language.
I love* how — in true stupid fashion — they’re naming things after America, which isn’t even the country’s name. We’re the United States of America, just one of several countries located on the North American continental plate.
That said in answer to your question that is a tough one because there are so many unrelated language families in NA. I’d probably pick something either Algonkian or iriquoian. Nituskeenan means “our land” in Cree, for example, and sounds kinda cool.
* I do not love this.
While as an American (the continent) I find that annoying, their country name IS America. For example, these are some other countries full names:
- Republic of the United States of Brazil (until 1930, now it's Federative Republic of Brazil)
- Kingdom of Spain
- Argentine Republic
- United States of Venezuela
- Oriental Republic of Uruguay
Etc, a lot of countries have a long name that explains what type of government they run and then the actual name of the country, the United States of Venezuela is a country named Venezuela that was formed by a coalition of states, I know nothing of Venezuela but because of its name I can imagine states have some autonomy in their ruling. And similarly United States of America is a country named America that was formed by a coalition of states, they just decided to name their country after the continent they're in making life difficult for the future generations.
While here in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, we apparently shortened it to just the type of government, like we're the only kingdom or something.
AFAIK UK is the only country that's named "United Kingdom of something" and it's shorter than Great Britain and Northern Ireland, so it doesn't need disambiguation.
Yeah, also not aware of any united kingdoms, there are other kingdoms though. I guess people know what it is at this point
Their aspiration is to rule over all of America.
So convenient that the Pomo and Chumash kept such strict linear borders we still use them for California to this day.