You gotta remember, despite everything we say, everything we've written, the laws in place, the rapidly growing atheism, the US is a theocracy first and foremost. The religion is just as important as the economy, employment rate, or the opinions of the ruling class.
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The only thing that has really kept religion in check in this country is, ironically, their enmity toward each other due, ostensibly, to differences in eschatology. That has melted away as they have come to the realization that they are in danger of becoming irrelevant. Fortunately, the laity is extremely stupid and easy to manipulate (religion will do that to you) and have no idea what they really believe or what the differences are, so they are being led as if they are more monolithic by focusing their worship on what they all agree they love: money. They are also too stupid to realize that this is ironic.
Yeah. I am Chicano but identify more with my indigenous side and am friends with plenty of Native Americans. I've always personally blamed Judeo-Christian thinking. The whole manifest destiny mindset is insane.
I mean read just a piece of how different things were before those religions came to this land.
A second, related factor was the absence of large domestic animals in North America, which meant that instead of the 'intensive', ploughing-and-manuring agriculture practised in Europe, Native American farmers used 'extensive' techniques, cultivating an area for a few years and then moving on to let the soil recover. Most groups - hunters and plant-gatherers as well as agriculturists - viewed land as a common resource rather than a commodity that could be owned. Tribes and families had the right to hunt, fish or grow crops in defined places, but the concept of a fenced-off parcel of land being the exclusive property of an individual would have been utterly alien to most, if not all, Native Americans. The Indian attitude towards land was part of a broader, more fundamental understanding of reality which underpinned the whole of native life. Although, again, there were enormous local variations in mythology and ritual, some of the essentials of this world-view were shared by many, if not most, cultures. Perhaps the most basic element was the belief in sacred power: the idea that everything in the universe was interconnected and possessed a spiritual force or energy that could affect the lives of 'the people' and of all other living things. Gaining power and the aid of powerful beings was absolutely vital: for success in hunting, plentiful crops, good health, thriving children and victory in battle. But power was also dangerous.
Source: Chapter 2 of The Earth Shall Weep by James Wilson.

("One Dollar - In God We Trust")
A theocracy that only believes in Supply Side Jesus and ignores the real teachings of Jesus. The GOP would look a lot different if their religion wasn't just a tool to manipulate their Christian base.
That's what religion is

Considering that the majority of vocal Christians vote Republican, Jesus being very explicitly leftist presents an opportunity to nudge them left. It certainly won't convince all of them, but there are those who actually value their prophet more than their politicians.
Anyone who cares about diminishing the Republican stranglehold on America should care that Jesus was a leftist, even if they didn't personally care about Jesus.
The fact that weʻve seen a few MAGA pastors openly say stuff like "Well, Jesusʻ teachings were more applicable in the first century and we have to adapt now" is proof enough that itʻs not Jesus they believe in. I want to see this pushed more and more to get them to finally admit that theyʻre not actually Christians, but are actually like Cartman in the South Park episode where he starts a Christian band ("You donʻt know the first thing about Christianity!" "I know enough to exploit it.")
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Just speaking as someone who grew up in a hyper conservative cult, it think sowing cognitive dissonance in the minds of religious youth is a great way at getting them to realize they are being taught bullshit. Hearing that Jesus's views didn't align with the views that had been forced upon me made me want to read the Bible and make my own decision about God and religion. I started my read fully expecting to end up with deeper faith and ended up crashing out and losing all religious belief, which was my first step towards me being a leftist today. All because of people pushing back on what Jesus would think of religious conservatism.
This. I went through a similar thing, but wound up in a different place (grew up in fundie-leaning Southern Baptist world with a pastor that turned out to be a sexual predator and abused people I am close to; decided to revisit the Bible and all that and wound up a priest in the Episcopal Church). Regardless of how folks end up, breaking people free from their control is paramount. If a meme manages to dent the armor, so be it. And if it annoys OP, they can always just mute it and move on. I do it a lot with posts that are openly hostile to my beliefs.
In the words of grandson, "Jesus was a 5'4" brown-skinned socialist, nothing like the man on that crucifix"
Honestly it isn’t like a lot of us care other than pointing out the insane levels of hypocrisy the right engage in while claiming to love Jesus.
No no. Top right panel is 100% correct and top left desperately needs to hear it.
Early Christianity was nothing anyone would recognize today. It was more like if Diogenes was blissfully happy instead of being a little shit.
Wtf don't ever belittle the greatest and wisest shit in history. Now stand out of my sun.
Jesus wouldn't have had politics we would find legible to us today, because the political landscape is contingent on the material conditions of a given place and time.
It's certainly interesting that the Bible is a series of documents written on the margins of empire, and that might inform how to think about it today. But Jesus himself would have had political opinions that do not map onto our modern, post-French Revolution, ideas of "left vs right".
I have long ago reached the end of my tolerance for religious nonsense. I will not engage in any serious discussion about religious fairy tales. If I want to discuss fictional world building, I'd rather talk about Lord of the Rings, or Star Trek, or Star Wars, all of which are far more interesting works of fantasy fiction than any religious lore.
We have to stop allowing religion to be an influential force on our government. If people want to embrace religion in their personal lives, that's their free choice to make, but they should be considered the oddballs that they are, and should be dismissed as serious political candidates, since they proudly believe in, speak to, and get advice and guidance from imaginary beings in their head.
That weirdo should not be making decisions about the future of our country. It's like the olden days, when they would take the ravings of a schizophrenic as messages from God.
you know, religion used to be an abstraction of politics, kinda, in the medieval ages. not sure what changed.
Ywah it's not like the majority of people in the wealthiest and most powerful part of the world (and a plurality elsewhere) literally worship the guy.
Not really, no. America is unique among wealthy and powerful countires, it's the only theocracy on the "west", and it's almost the only one where christians are majority. Except Vatican maybe.
I mean, at least two billion people are Christian, so presumably they care. And that doesn't even include the rest of us who get screwed over by Christian-conservative doublethink bullshit.
It absolutely matters.
"Faker than blue eyed crackers nailed to a crucifix" - immortal technique (lol)
If Jesus were here now I'd be desperately trying to lick his washboard carpenter abs
The culture war was designed to keep us fighting amongst ourselves while the rich techno fascist pedo freaks continue to steal everything that isn't nailed down.
Jesus was pro-choice, though, there is a verse in the bible giving instructions on abortion (via beatings).
That’s nah that’s some Old Testament stuff. Jesus specifically calls for the ending of old Jewish traditions. Thats why Jews don’t hold him in high regard. Most traditions of the Old Testament Jesus would have told people to do something else.
On the topic of the op Jesus would have been a straight socialist. He believed in giving to the state what belonged to the state but also believed that the rich had an obligation of helping the poor.
We don't really know what Jesus thought about basically anything, because the only sources we have for his opinions are a bunch of texts written long after his supposed death, and they all contradict each other in various ways.
I wonder if people realize that lots of things are intrusive and annoying
Mostly religion, though.
Jesus never used toilet paper.
Jesus could be here now and he would be seen as a conspiracy theorist.
Could be David Icke for all we know. But doesn't matter does it...
Jesus today: "For god sake, I kept saying to these 4 retards that men have to find the way by themselves and they basically wrote an How To you guys blindly followed for the last 2000 years ?!"
Come on. Virgin pregnancy, yeah right. Her husband not even knowing and the 3 wise men coming to see the child, sure thing.
Jesus wouldn't be alive for long if born today. He would have been thrown into Lake Michigan shortly after birth.