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I mean a lot of what Socrates and Plato wrote and taught are just self justifications for the ancient Greek ruling class.

That delusion is so common that I suspect it must have a name, but I don't know what it is.

But the better a solution appears, the more a person who sees the solution believes it to be obvious, and therefore also believes that, had they tried to solve the problem, they'd have come up with this "obvious" solution straight away with no effort.

Meanwhile, the person who actually solved the problem could only come up with the perfect simple solution after a lifetime of study in the area to the point that you'd call them an expert or master, and after agonizing for a long time over this particular problem.

Teaching "common sense" is so hard because kids get so offended that you think they are stupid.

Historical projections of population place the global population at roughly 162 million people. Let's say only .1% of the population was capable of this sort of thing. Although I think it's low and while these early Greek philosophers were certainly smart the key to their success was wealth and the ability to focus on their "craft". But I'll really lowball human intelligence

Anyway, at .1% of people that means roughly 162,000 thousand people would be capable. The number of those with resources to actually dedicate the time even smaller.

Today the world population is over 8 billion, but we'll use 8 billion. So at .1% that gives us 8 million people alive today that would be capable.

I really underestimated human intelligence, but the point is the same. We have so so many people alive today that there is certainly quite a few people capable of doing these sorts of things

"Einstein is such an idiot. I learned about general relativity in middle school"

There's also the case of, you arnt rich, noble, and from the ruling class that gives your words enough weight to even be considered less remembered at all.

A great deal many things have been discovered and forgotten and rediscovered. Because the first few times they weren't discovered by a rich enough noble with the power and wealth to spread the knowledge or even get people to listen in the first place.

In ye olden times. It took more then just being smart, you also had to be rich as FUCK or have extremely good connections if not rich as fuck. And in many cases you needed both.

Else you would be ignored, and die with any discovery or advancements you invented in your life.

Wat

Have you tried being born wealthy? Hope this helps!

Well, a society with a vast management/"thinker" class (the rest, including bureaucrats, being slaves) should produce some thinkening shit.

Not as much as a society with universal individual's needs guaranteed (the tech back then just wasn't there), but more than a society with overwhelming oligarchy/feudalism rule where only a random few are allowed to think.

If I recall correctly, "fatherless biped" was an attempt to define a human in the simplest, most basic form, and as short as possible.

I guess they just forgot about gorillas and other primates. Are they classified as bipedal? I mean they don't HAVE to use their arms to move around. It's just more efficient for them...

Of course, I wouldn't have plucked a chicken and presented it ad a fatherless biped, either.. So what do I know lmao

- Hey dude, you know you had two goats? Well, I took one

- Whatever I still have one goat left

- Hey dude, you know you had one single goat? Well, I took it

- Wtf, that doesn't make sense

👆 real dialogues recorded by actual ancient Greeks

Simple rule of thumb. If it has no real world use case in your avg dudes day to day.

It ain't getting discovered.

Now you also need to have that avg dude be someone of note, power and reach so that the discovery actually goes somewhere and doesn't just die with him.

The more esoteric and rarer those two things line up.

Aristotle also believed that women were defective men, that some people are naturally destined to be slaves, and rejected atomic theory.

I feel like you can change this absolutely imbecilic image to “the hole left by everyone just accepted Aristotle’s idea that you can just think everything from first principles and don’t have to do any experimentation” and it’d actually be somewhat accurate.

It makes me feel old too, lol. I think some people make them with streamers or content creators (maybe?) or just because they need an image, since people are more likely to share something funny if it's not just text. It's a little weird, but whatever.

I don't think this meme is about science, but rather about "thinking about thinking"