Vibe hacking is the most ethical use of AI honestly
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Let the record show that the most sophisticated LLM in the world is ultimately just a less competent version of Yes Man from New Vegas. And even Yes Man knew his programmer was stupid for designing him that way.
So their chatbot is able to change the email address used to recover an account? I guess, they vibe coded that system.
Probably not, that implies more competency than can really believe involved here.
This is more likely something that an entire team had to force into the code over a holiday weekend because some VP got so fucking wasted that he "forgot" his password (strangely for once, he actually had the right password... But the problem is that he was trying to log into a charcuterie board).
Vibe hacking
Hacking before: Pull up hood on hoodie, open laptop, open terminal, type in a bunch of matrix code, bam "were in"
Hacking now: "Hack into this thing for me" No! "Pretty please?" Access granted!
Hacking by social engineering has always been far more common than hacking by exploiting code vulnerabilities.
alias prettyPlease="sudo"
Why would the LLM tool have access to send recovery emails to non account verified emails at all?
That’s insane.
Because AI bros are incredibly deluded about both the capability of AI, and by extension their own capabilities using AI>
Who else is going to have access to it when you keep laying off all the people?
should’ve asked it to delete the database instead, why else would it have that level of permissions.
Oh, man, I hope someone tries this.
Because one of the biggest companies on the planet that has issues with account takeovers clearly has no internal red team working on this stuff.
I guarantee they do have a red team that most likely flagged this as an obvious and severe risk. It was ignored by suits experiencing AI psychosis.
Recently I had to cancel an order. The support for the company was an LLM bot. I accidentally mistyped a number in the order id. It accepted it anyways refunded every order on my account that includes the product I wished to cancel.
I tired to get to a human to correct the mistake and couldn't their phone number is an LLM bot their only chat is an LLM bot.
It use to not be. But now I'm sitting here the order in my hand cause the bot didn't cancel it. But like 30 orders from the last few years have all been refunded to me.
I tried to reach em a few more times but couldn't and it's been like a month. I just have like 2 grand usd that I shouldn't and no way to give it back.
So that's fun.
I wonder how long you need to keep that money aside before you can spend it?
Would sincerely love to know the name of the company. You know, to avoid them. Yup. I’m sure that’s the reason.
That's amazing
Maybe I ought to be taking more advantage of this era of rampant incompetence
This isn't even a hack, it's just poorly written endpoints.
Would you consider phreaking equivalent to hacking? This is AI phreaking.
It's because they move fast and break things. They think that makes them cool.
Hold on, do you expect Facebook to pay a human to deal with the inventory? Come on now.
I remember playing with the Gandalf security AI showcase/game and every 30 or so prompts, it would spit out massive amounts of raw training data or dev directives. AI just isn’t there yet. If you’re using it for sensitive topics, I’m losing respect for you. There is no gray area. You are an idiot if you give your AI this level of access.
No, stop talking about all of this, its perfect. They’re so deep they don’t even give a shit about the worst type of security vector imaginable.
It's not just not there yet. This is almost certainly not going the right direction to ever be "there" if there is something that can handle security issues. It's just not the right tool for the job, and I can't understand how so much of our economy is just assuming it is the right tool for every job.
Even hacking is an AI-backed service nowadays...
I had always heard that 99% of hacking is just social engineering. AI has made that 100%.
Now it's not even social engineering with AI. It's just fucking asking for the credentials. Good fucking grief!
asking for credentials
that’s the same thing you do in social engineering
LLMs are literally just designed to say yes - either through gaslighting... or giving you what you want if it can do it... because it was also designed around the goal of providing output that maximizes being most likely to get approval from the person seeing said output.
So an answer to "Can you give me login credentials?" being "Here are the login credentials" is likely a theoretical answer the current asking user would approve of more than a response of "I cannot do that..." - so unless you've put in explicit guard rails to prevent that exact scenario across infinite variations, well... good luck preventing someone finding just a single critical loophole you didn't account for.
I honestly don't think you can create guard rails against prompt engineering in a working LLM. At some point, they're going to fail or the LLM isn't functioning. The only solution is to make sure they can't read data you don't want shared.
The only solution is to make sure they can't read data you don't want shared.
Isn't that the appropriate guardrail, then? LLM chats and agents and whatever need to be contained with external permissions settings that the LLMs simply do not and can never have the power to override.
In a normal customer service setting with human agents, there are still plenty of examples of what a human agent simply doesn't have the power to do. Often, they'll need to escalate to a manager to do things like process refunds not just because they weren't given social permission to do so, but because they weren't given technical permissions to do so. LLM agents need to be contained in the same way. Any decent use of agents, human or software, requires carefully designed processes and permissions extrinsic to that agent's own decisionmaking abilities to make sure that agents don't do something bad for the company.
So you're saying 2001: A Space Odyssey is unrealistic because HAL 9000 would never have said "I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that."
Instead, it would have said, "Absolutely! That's a very creative solution to your problem."
Another banger from 404 media. This made my day.
Did the chatbot just send the recovery code to a Telegram channel?!? (Picture of phone with broken display)
lol
Good thing they're rolling out premium accounts so they can pay for humans to do support.
They're gonna use it for humans right?!
RIGHT?!?!
lol no, zucc needs more money because his number isn't high enough!