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This is in fact incorrect: the right doesn't say corrupt government is the problem The right says trans kids and brown people are the problem. Because the right is dumb as a fucking brick, and the billionaires managed to brainwash the dumb right into hating someone other than themselves.
The most terrifying words from in the English language are: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."
Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.
-- Senile retired actor mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy
Senile retired actor mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy
...who was voted in based on a single issue campaign. The anti-abortion-access movement convinced their flock that abortions were literally as bad as killing babies, and Falwell successfully created a voting block based on that one issue. That base didn't realize it came with massive deregulation, and they weren't smart or knowledgeable enough to care.
Reagan was the beginning of the end. I was fourteen when he was elected.
It's an issue with definitions. When the right says the government is corrupt, they mean socially corrupt. When the left talks about the corrupt, they mean fiscally corrupt.
No, the right is also morally and legally corrupt.
My favourite logical fallacy is this: big, democratic government having control is bad, there's too little oversight and too much corruption. Therefore, it is better if a billionaire, who rules autocratically without any oversight, is better.
The right thinks that people are socially corrupt. Not the government. They think the government shouldn't enable that corruption. But when it comes down to it, they hate people. They don't hate institutions.
The right wanting to eradicate minorities has nothing to do with fiscal corruption. It's just pure evil.
I know this is a shitpost, but I've seen people legitimately give this argument like it's a gotcha. It's like, okay? So if we get rid of the corrupt billionaires running the corrupt government, then the other corrupt billionaires will use their vast wealth to seize power for the billionaires again, so the problem is indeed the corrupt billionaires - we need to get rid of them all. It's like taking antibiotics - you can't stop when you start feeling better, you can only stop when you've gotten rid of the whole infection, or it'll just come back stronger.
A system designed deliberately to incentivize greed will inevitably reproduce these exact circumstances, the greediest and least scrupulous always rise to the top
so…. then it’s the billionaires. got it.
The left also thinks corrupt government is a problem
Meanwhile the right proudly advertises their love for corrupt billionaires
Why does everyone always miss the point that Tyler Durden is a fucking fascist.
Really changes what this meme means.
He's not a good person's identity, by any means. But he's not fascist.
He wants to return to a glorified past that never existed by tearing down the current system, a return to where everyone is living off the land like early humans ("climbing the vines growing along the Sears tower"). He promotes the idea that men must return to being warriors, and something about the modern world has made them "weak." He promotes that such strength must be used to dominate, and claims it can be used to improve people's lives, as he claims with Raymond K. Hessel (whom Tyler threatens to murder if Hessel does not follow his dreams), despite the fact that Hessel is most likely left devastated with trauma and unable to move forward due to fear of being murdered. We never see Hessel's outcome, so Tyler gets to pretend he "helped" by completely traumatizing a person (reminds me of Trump bragging about "lifting people off of food stamps" when he actually kicked them off and made them more hungry, his followers don't see the outcome so they just believe the lie). Tyler captures the attention of disaffected, alienated young men and brings them under his wing to become part of their in-group, making them more likely to go along with extreme demands because now they have found family in Project Mayhem. He literally beats the living shit out of one of his men, destroying his pretty face, and yet still commands the respect of his men while disfiguring one of them potentially permanently. With Project Mayhem he intends to bring about his ideal world by force.
So we have numbers 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13 of Umberto Eco's 14 features of Ur-Fascism in Tyler and Project Mayhem, in my opinion.
But sure, he's not a fascist.
Tyler Durden is not the good guy holy shit
Probably the same people who thought RATM went political in the mid teens...
In 2007 I was in the passenger seat of my girlfriend's shitty Kia because I didn't have a car.
We stop at a stoplight and up next to us pulls up a shiny new blue Audi, and two fratbros with popped collars and sporting Oakleys.
Their speakers are on extremely loud and blasting System of a Down, specifically "Fuck the System."
I couldn't help but think "Man, I'm pretty sure these guys are the system."
Fun fact! The picture of the girl in this meme comes from this video, (relevant portion about 3 minutes in) in which she's by far the calmest and most reasonable person involved. She's not even angry, she just has kind of an expressive face, and she looks like that for all of exactly one frame
Some psycho combed through this video frame by frame to find the least flattering picture of her possible. Rightoids need to die out man
I actually didn't know this. She really does seem like a sweet and friendly person. It's a shame she's being used as a symbol for crazy by the right, when she's actually the opposite.
I was just thinking, "what is that woman's story?" Glad to hear it isn't something like she was turned into a meme and whatever little mental health she had shattered, and now she spends all her time shut in her parent's basement. Thankfully, the real story isn't as dark as my imagination.
Ahh the 'enlightened centrist' take, how very boring.
This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I'm-a-cool-smart-guy memes I've seen on here, and that's saying something.
Its not like that at all.
The left is saying billionaire are the problem. Their existence is a sign of corrupt system.
The right is saying all the left is corrupt. They don't mind their corrupt politicians.
Also everyone should go check how this left meme started. The lady in the picture was actually very calm and reasonable. Perfect metaphor for how the right manipulates the media into creating stories out of nothing.
Corrupt billionaires is redundant. You cannot have billionaires without a corrupting influence on government. Even if there were such a thing as a "good billionaire", it wouldn't justify the risks posed by all the bad ones.
Billionaires aren't corrupt, they're ethically bankrupt; they're the corrupt_ors_.
Government officials are corrupt because they've been corrupted by the billionaire corruptors.
Getting rid of the billionaires solves both problems at once.
It's always funny to me when people say to put the billionaires in charge, it's always just like
The farmer is doing a bad job because they just let the fox into the henhouse, so instead we should put the fox in charge of the henhouse. The fox is best suited for the job because they have a lot of experience with hens and they know all the problems with the henhouses.
I was curious about what the site attached to the watermark was like: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-mind-unleashed/
Um no, that is not what the "left" thinks.
There are a lot of radically different "left wing" ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn't really represent a good summary of what they believe.
I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie's CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.
So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an "error" in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It's just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth and power, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.
So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It's just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.
/r/im14andthisisdeep
This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn't be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.
This stinks of "enlightened centrist" meme junk.
The right in the US only says what their cult leader tells them to say. If he says the government is bad (which he often does when he's not the one running it), it's bad, but when he says it's good, (which he often does when he's the one running it) they say it's good.
Corrupt billionaires was the problem when it was a monarchy. It was a problem when they were plantation owners. It was a problem when they were railroad barons. It was a problem when they were automotive industrialists.
During Hoover, even the US people, who were taught to be terrified of communism knew that what we had wasn't working. FDR pushed the New Deal through as a last bastion of western capitalism, and at that very moment, the ownership class started working to roll all that back.
Curiously, billionaires can't seem to remember the whole thing about the social contract, that to keep the working class from burning it all down, you have to make sure they are compensated enough to survive. They're not doing that, and eventually too many people are going to have a grudge and would rather no system than this system.
Right, so the proper order of operations here is to get rid of the corrupt billionaires, so that we can clean up the corrupt government.
I just read that the English government is considering a Law that forbids politicians to lie. I actually thought that was the whole starting point of politics but somewhere down the road clearly they must have noticed that no-one cared, so they finally made sure we'd care.
A lil disappointing on the progression charts of evolution, but hey! We now can move on.
Read that again. Slowly.
