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[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn't be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.

This stinks of "enlightened centrist" meme junk.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, the post is meant to be pro-left.

But your first sentence in your comment is wrong. Classic correlation is not causation. With the addition of "if X is Y because Z, if Z wouldn't be, then X wouldn't be Y".

[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I was on the fence about this exact thing. My logic is that corruption requires wealthy/powerful people to be corrupt in favor of. If there were no billionaire class, no bourgeoisie, there would be no people who benefit from the oppression of the proletariat, so corruption as we conceive of it in modern America couldn't exist.

Of course, people will act unpredictably and some people with power will abuse it, but the whole system of billions being spent on campaign contributions and lobbyist dinners couldn't continue if there weren't entities with billions to spend.

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Ahh the 'enlightened centrist' take, how very boring.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago

therefore, corrupt billionaires are the problem

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so…. then it’s the billionaires. got it.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For real. Both sides guy is an idiot.

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[–] oascany@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I'm-a-cool-smart-guy memes I've seen on here, and that's saying something.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We really gotta stop using that girl in memes that make her seem crazy. She was the calmest most reasoned person in that video.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact! The picture of the girl in this meme comes from this video, (relevant portion about 3 minutes in) in which she's by far the calmest and most reasonable person involved. She's not even angry, she just has kind of an expressive face, and she looks like that for all of exactly one frame

Some psycho combed through this video frame by frame to find the least flattering picture of her possible. Rightoids need to die out man

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I actually didn't know this. She really does seem like a sweet and friendly person. It's a shame she's being used as a symbol for crazy by the right, when she's actually the opposite.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I was just thinking, "what is that woman's story?" Glad to hear it isn't something like she was turned into a meme and whatever little mental health she had shattered, and now she spends all her time shut in her parent's basement. Thankfully, the real story isn't as dark as my imagination.

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone is "I need someone who I can vote for!"

Why not run yourself? I bet there is a considerable amount of people willing to vote for a random person who has no known connections to oligarchs, pedophiles or billionaires

Because I'm not tough enough to handle the death threats I'd get for being trans.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The right elected the most corrupt government we have had so far.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 189 points 3 days ago (15 children)

This is in fact incorrect: the right doesn't say corrupt government is the problem The right says trans kids and brown people are the problem. Because the right is dumb as a fucking brick, and the billionaires managed to brainwash the dumb right into hating someone other than themselves.

They actually say it all the time. Trumps people have been called out in interviews for saying it while occupying their positions.

[–] poopsmith@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The most terrifying words from in the English language are: "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

-- Senile retired actor mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy

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[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Um no, that is not what the "left" thinks.

There are a lot of radically different "left wing" ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn't really represent a good summary of what they believe.

I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie's CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.

So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an "error" in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It's just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth and power, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.

So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It's just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing

What exactly do you think is a just hierarchy? Where is the line?

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

There is none. That's why I am an anarchist. I guess, I worded that in a bad way.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

Billionaires aren't corrupt, they're ethically bankrupt; they're the corrupt_ors_.
Government officials are corrupt because they've been corrupted by the billionaire corruptors.

Getting rid of the billionaires solves both problems at once.

It's always funny to me when people say to put the billionaires in charge, it's always just like

The farmer is doing a bad job because they just let the fox into the henhouse, so instead we should put the fox in charge of the henhouse. The fox is best suited for the job because they have a lot of experience with hens and they know all the problems with the henhouses.

Read that again. Slowly.

[–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

The left also thinks corrupt government is a problem

Meanwhile the right proudly advertises their love for corrupt billionaires

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)

So that would put you on the left.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)
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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I know this is a shitpost, but I've seen people legitimately give this argument like it's a gotcha. It's like, okay? So if we get rid of the corrupt billionaires running the corrupt government, then the other corrupt billionaires will use their vast wealth to seize power for the billionaires again, so the problem is indeed the corrupt billionaires - we need to get rid of them all. It's like taking antibiotics - you can't stop when you start feeling better, you can only stop when you've gotten rid of the whole infection, or it'll just come back stronger.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

A system designed deliberately to incentivize greed will inevitably reproduce these exact circumstances, the greediest and least scrupulous always rise to the top

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Turn it around. Who are the good billionaires? Get their help, their resources, and make politics sane again.

How can we figure out who they are?

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago

When someone wants to be an edgy centrist but ends up enforcing leftism

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Corrupt billionaires controlling the government in a fight to hoover up every last penny of the entire population of the earth are a substantial problem.

The majority of the right doesn't actually care about corruption as long as they see it benefiting them, or hurting the 'other team'. It doesn't actually need to benefit them it can even hurt them substantially, as long as it hurts the other side more and they are told they could have an advantage due to it.

In the end, the left politicians are as into the corruption as the right, they're just better at lip service and nothing is going to change.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Why does everyone always miss the point that Tyler Durden is a fucking fascist.

Really changes what this meme means.

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[–] borQue@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just read that the English government is considering a Law that forbids politicians to lie. I actually thought that was the whole starting point of politics but somewhere down the road clearly they must have noticed that no-one cared, so they finally made sure we'd care.

A lil disappointing on the progression charts of evolution, but hey! We now can move on.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

We have truth-in-advertising laws, and political campaigns are nothing more than marketing/ promotional/ advertising campaigns, so those laws should apply. If someone is making claims that are demonstrably false, their campaign should be ended, and their entire campaign fund confiscated, and they should be prohibited from ever holding office again.

They'll learn real fast.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Corrupt billionaires is redundant. You cannot have billionaires without a corrupting influence on government. Even if there were such a thing as a "good billionaire", it wouldn't justify the risks posed by all the bad ones.

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Where shitpost?

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