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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 120 points 2 months ago (8 children)
[–] Thorry@feddit.org 95 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Listen here you little shit

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[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

I'm at a loss for words

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Just enough to make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

11? Including reverse

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

All of them.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm at a loss

e:f;b

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[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 months ago (5 children)

These exist as well.

They're used in places where numbers should NOT be forged(i.e. bank documents...)

This is how they got their numeric meanings btw.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So 伍 is not 5, but five.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago

Their math homework must take forever

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't get 4. At least the kanji 4 looks very different

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeaaaah, I don't know Chinese, but I've never seen a kanji of four horizontal lines, just 四 for 4

[–] JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I never learned it as four lines. 四 was the way to do it. Maybe locally or something the hip kids are doing? Source: Mandarin professor ETA: I was a person of simplified Chinese though

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[–] ViperActual@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Does 0 have a shorthand character as well?

[–] thecatprincx@pawb.social 14 points 2 months ago

Can be written as 〇

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure about China but in Japan there's 〇 which can be used like so: ハ〇〇円 to mean 800 yen, in a restaurant menu for example

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[–] kshade@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

The concept of zero is scary, so it's a wizard shooting lightning from all orifices. Makes sense.

[–] WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Under the arms and from the butt are the orifices?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago

This got weird SO fast.

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[–] blx@piefed.zip 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, when you mean "zero" it may look a bit excessive. But it's quite adequate if you want to express "Void, the Dark Realm of Nothingness and End of All Things".

ps: Glory to ZA̡͊͠͝LGΌ.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah líng 零 is pretty annoying as a learner of the language.

The top character is yŭ 雨 which means rain. Confusingly, this is the semantic component - the part that contains the meaning of the character. Explained below.

The bottom character líng 令 means order/command as a noun and verb. This doesn't add meaning, it is the phonetic component: basically a pronunciation cue.

It originally meant "light rain"/"falling in drops, like rain", actually. It began being used to mean "fragments" or "leftover part", then as "remainder" in the mathematical sense. Then, eventually, to mean 0. Another form of this líng is 霝 which means raindrops. It has 3 kŏu 口 ("mouth") characters on the bottom to visually represent drops.

So, like a lot of Chinese characters, it really only makes sense when you understand the etymology - and even then it's kind of a stretch

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

No one has mentioned special 2, 两! It’s only for counting certain things.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean... in English we also use different words, such as "pair" and "dozen", for some specific numbers.

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[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

You don't divide by 0 in Chinese because he'll jump off the page and kick your ass.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 11 points 2 months ago

"Three, Two, One... NOTHING"

scratches head in Mandarin

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

well atleast this post + Comments taught me some Chinese.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (10 children)

And now an English lesson:

The past tense of teach is taught. Teached is not a word.

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Japanese enters the chat:

Left: numeral; middle: regular writing; final: certain formal and non-forgery usecases.

または in point 7 means either variant is OK

The last line says one can use the modern yen sign as well (though some would argue that it's bad manners in at least some situations, but I have no dog in that fight).

万 = 10k. Several countries use both 1k and 10k units (Japan traditionally was on the 10k side but had a lot of influence so now we see both a lot. A used car price might be 130万円 or something ( = 1,300,000 yen)

数字	通常の漢字	金額で使う旧字体(大字)  
0	零	零  
1	一	壱  
2	二	弐  
3	三	参  
4	四	肆  
5	五	伍  
6	六	陸  
7	七	柒(または 漆)  
8	八	捌  
9	九	玖  
10	十	拾  
100	百	佰  
1k	千	仟  
万	万	萬  
円	円	圓(もしくは「円」のまま)  

Chart from here that looks better: https://saiseich.com/business/kanji_kingaku/

We have a way of writing numbers in certain situations. Think of it like checks in the US where we write things in a certain way so that the numbers can't be easily changed to increase the value or something.

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[–] karashta@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see a little person jumping up and spinning in midair to make an egg shape like a zero

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[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Three pigs

Two pigs

One pig

Zero pig ? Or zero pigs?

Honest question. Do we pluralize nouns of zero count? Or should they be singular?

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

It's plural, but not because there are many pigs.

"How many pigs are there?" And answering with "There are no pigs" use the noun "pigs" in the same way. They are referring to the "pig" category or kind. When answering knowing the actual count, it's a specific number or token.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (26 children)

Japanese isn’t much better:

一、二、三… 四。

[–] f314@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It’s the same as in Chinese, so I wouldn’t expect it to be 😅

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 6 points 2 months ago

Lmao, I just picked up learning Kanji again after like 3 years (never had time in grad school)

It is rough. But fierce repetition helps a lot. I can see the characters for "read a book" whenever I close my eyelids now hahaha

Once something turns into muscle memory you don't forget.

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

零 isn't too bad as far as chinese characters are concerned. you should see the character for depression. or the biang biang noodles character, although that one is kind of a meme

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