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[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Three pigs

Two pigs

One pig

Zero pig ? Or zero pigs?

Honest question. Do we pluralize nouns of zero count? Or should they be singular?

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's plural, but not because there are many pigs.

"How many pigs are there?" And answering with "There are no pigs" use the noun "pigs" in the same way. They are referring to the "pig" category or kind. When answering knowing the actual count, it's a specific number or token.

[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"are" makes it plural

if the sentence had "is" instead, it would be singular: there is no pig

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they are asking with the number zero specifically. "There is zero pig" is not how we speak.

[–] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

good point. "there is zero [noun]" doesn't work whether the noun is plural or not. only when you use "no" instead of "zero"

i've only ever spoken english and it still confounds me. why do we say "hands" but we don't say "foots"?

why don't "good" and "food" rhyme?

why does "feed" become "fed," but "weed" becomes "weeded"? meanwhile "wed" and "wedded" mean the same thing

lol

[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

If you insist on "is" then "zero" doesn't work. But if you use "are" the sentence, "There are zero pigs" is totally cromulant. That's because "pigs" in that sentence is addressing the category.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“How many pigs are there?” And answering with “There are no pigs” use the noun “pigs” in the same way. They are referring to the “pig” category or kind. When answering knowing the actual count, it’s a specific number or token.

There are one pigs

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

there is one pig.

to be singular is the only non-plural state

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In English you use plural for zero count. I have zero pigs. There are 0 cows.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

And also it's not just zero, plural is for literally anything other than (positive) one: 2.3 pigs, -1 pigs, 0.2 pigs, etc.