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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Mount Everest is a fake ass accomplishment for rich people anyway. You don’t carry all your shit, there are lines to the peak, garbage everywhere, it’s basically Times Square for CEOs who want to market themselves as ‘adventurers’. Slightly more death involved each year, but that has more to do with the weather than how Tough someone is.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They have luxury expeditions with private chefs, hot tubs and massages. Kinda misses the point in my opinion.

For those interested, hers is a video on the subject I recently watched:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHXyoquZyA

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy fuck. If you're a first time climber, you have a 1 in 6 chance of dying? That's insane.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Playing Russian roulette would be a lot cheaper.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Makes me think about how rich people apparently ruined Burning Man

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We were just talking about that in our house. Some people have died waiting in line for a selfie.

And none of them are missed.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Its kind of like the opposite of a guillotine.

Doesn't always work, but when it does, you basically did it to yourself.

The corpse pile problem on Everest has been getting significantly worse for a while now.

... same thing, to a lesser extent, with the Titanic.

Maybe we could make an empathetic argument that there shouldn't be any billionaires: Having that much money makes you so stupid and encourages such risky behavior that really, you should be thanking us for not allowing you to get into a dangerous headspace.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

It's a nice after-work walk you might say, nothing to it, just a few spots where you have to take your hands out of your pockets!

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doesn't make it a fake ass accomplishment

You can't just stroll up there still.

I've done up to 6000m, and hoping to do 7000m.

You do rely on sherpas, but it still isn't a day hike either. Even Hillary's team used sherpas to assist

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What makes it fake is presenting it as the work of an individual, as those egotistical peak selfies and tedious biographies frequently do. (General) you didn’t make it to the peak, you were helped along by underpaid locals dragging around all the shit that is keeping you alive, who frequently lose their lives in an effort to support their families so some tech bro can get a selfie. It’s a gross way to spend $30k+.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

And 30k is on the cheap end. I think the average is like 50-60k now. Over 100k if you go with the really high end companies. Its crazy.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

You're being upvoted, but, what experience do you have mountaineering training? Any? Have you even got hiking experience

It feels like you're just saying stuff that simply sounds valid, but is distorted.

  1. A good company costs 60K minimum, and another 20K if you want 4L of oxygen.
  2. No, you cant just spend 60K and climb either. Nobody will take you.
  3. You MUST have 7000m experience, which eliminates mountains like Island Peak and Mera (which was the FULL intention), and it means you have experience staying overnight at altitude.
  4. Don't speak on behalf of the locals. I personally knew 2 different Sherpas who want to climb Everest. One did, the other wanted to (and hopefully has already). Operating as a guide allows them to achieve this
  5. Preparing the camps is a matter of time primarily. Summit guides have the advantage of living at 4000m+, so it saves a lot of time.
  6. You still carry your own gear at 8000m+ which is basically 30% Oxygen, and you cannot acclimatise.
  7. Clients still do many acclimatisation climbs. Getting the camps prepared is basically a matter of time (months).
  8. Whilst I agree a lot of it is just rich people trying to get attention, don't underestimate the level of fitness it takes. Based on my experience a huge number of people can't even get to base camp (which is only 5400m). People doing Everest don't simply wake up and do acclimatisation walks. Even at 6000M, you're at 40% Oxygen, and its already a bit hard to breath.. Every step feels a lot harder
  9. Staying at the camps isn't as luxurious as you think lol. That being said, at places like Island Peak Base camp, it actually takes hours to go fetch water. The Base Camp manager handles that
  10. Good companies still pay sherpas the FULL amount even if summit/climbing is completely cancelled for the year.
  11. I haven't climbed Everest, but, don't underestimate the fear of being dropped off in a glacier for the first time, and being told you'll fall into a crevasse at some point during training. It takes courage too. I have done a large ladder crossing. And, suspect you know what it's like to wake up and midnight, start climbing, and simply just hope things are ok
[–] YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Re: point 6, oxygen content of air is usually 21%. Did you mean it's 30% of that normal 21%?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Even Hillary's team used sherpas to assist

Nothing says "fake accomplishment" like claiming to be the first to reach the top of a mountain by relying on the help (read: exploitation) of local people who had presumably been doing it for hundreds of years.

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[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

Near the top though.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Fuck Everest. I wanna be the first person to climb Olympus Mons. Bigger challenge. Right off the bat, even the base of it has air too thin to breathe without special equipment. 😌

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At this point I'm perfectly happy with my daily walk around Pubis Mons

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[–] nycvin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Got me thinking, Olympus Mons is the tallest peak in the solar system right? But there is no water on Mars.

Mount Everest is measured from sea level. If you measured from the bottom of the ocean it's there a taller peak somewhere on earth?

[–] Shootfast@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] nycvin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Cool, thanks! 9,330 m

Still not close to Olympus Mons but the more you know...

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[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The lower gravity is a mitigating factor.

I've been planning my ascent since I was four.

I won't hesitate to Amundsen you.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Also it's so huge that it is basically flat. It's not a climb but a long trek.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd like to workshop how to make climbing Everest uncool amongst the stupid rich.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Make it inexpensive. They’ll drop it in a second.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Quite the opposite! Charge them ten million bucks. They'll all want to go and quite a few won't come back.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Worked for the Titan sub

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Billionaire popsicle :L

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I'd like to workshop how to make it more alluring and dangerous.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Can't miss it, right next to Green Boots

[–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That was the worst part of my experience with going to altitude. I inevitably get tumbly guts and begin having gas like nobody's business. Damn my friend for telling me to go with him to the 14k peak one day after I arrived from sea level, but damn that stupid trail for making it so difficult to find a secluded place to spew my poor bowels' contents.

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Frozen shit everywhere, tripping over dead people, lack of oxygen, rubbish strewn about, frostbite, lines and wait times to get to the peak ... sounds like a massive tourism drawcard!

[–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 2 points 1 month ago

There's not too many dead people on 14k peaks, but hey, imagination's a way to get you to where you want to be!

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, once you're above the treeline, you're on your own.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

That would never happen because women dont have bowel movements.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Left at green boots, right at shitting girl, and if you see jorking it guy, you've gone too far.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, Anne, that title is forever claimed by Kaitlyn Bennett.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I thought she was the "shitty girl"?

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I mean, you'd be remembered in history, eh? It might come back every generation or so..."Dude! Look at what I found! This page shows that Shitting Girl is apparently someone forever stuck in a squat on Mount Everest! We have to go!"

They'd bring even more garbage up there in memoriam and some would die in prayer to the squatted wonder. Then one day, the mass of trash and accumulated snow would crack and the shitting wonder would avalanche to be lost until the aliens would track you down, freeze you in Carbonite, and sell you in the nearest intergalactic flea market. You get the idea.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago

Fame costs.

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