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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 8 points 6 hours ago

His end game is to make a lot of money. And he's doing that.

He doesn't care what happens to the poor in either country

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 hours ago

According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history

Hahahaha.

remembers Bibi starter all this

Hahahahahahahahahaha

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 17 points 12 hours ago

We still want the epstien files you fat pedo. Losing a war won't make anyone forget.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Without Americans noticing the magnitude of this defeat?

Oh… no shit. He won that metal. Imagine advancing the decline of the world’s leading empire by decades, if not centuries. Imagine all the indoctrinated, enslaved, and coerced souls who gave their blood, sweat, and tears to put the US where it was. The magnitude of the defeat is staggering. Asking an American for a status report would be like asking a tribe of moles burrowed in Mt. Everest how a recent snowstorm changed the topology of the mountain. They don’t fucking know. They can tell you the cost of oil has gone up, though.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Let's be real, there's no way the collapse of pax Americana was going to take centuries

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The collapse of Pax Americana will take decades, not centuries. 1 century? Perhaps, but not centuries

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Decades??? Come now, you're being overly generous. The collapse of this nightmare will be fast and violent, with lots of screaming and ruin. We might see it by the end of THIS decade.

Yeah, I agree

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Move fast and break things

meme: person riding a bike and sticking a stick in between the spokes

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

Drump will go down as one of the worst presidents in US history.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 4 points 6 hours ago

He's already entrenched in last place, according to historians, who generally like to wait at least a decade before making these judgemental. With Trump, they don't need the waiting period, or even for his term to end. He is already OBJECTIVELY the worst president in history. All he's going to do now is set a new record for how bad a president can be.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Gonna take awhile though. Reagan fucked the country pretty hard and he never showed up in my HS textbooks.

[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 3 points 3 hours ago

Absolutely. The MAGA regime could only have existed because of the damage Reagan did. https://youtu.be/l7dHvqA-WB4

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

For now. Bush was the worst once and nobody expected worse.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

He was 45 and 47, so he'll go down as the two worst presidents in US history

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

That's quite the understatement. He's actively sabotaging the entire planet.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 5 points 13 hours ago

He already did that. Now it appears as though he is aiming to be the last.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago

Nero didn't set fire to the city, he just fiddled himself as it burnt. Trump? He pissed kerosene and lit the match.

Odds are, Trump will be considered the worst leader of a major nation in human history.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Already has. Just when you think no one could be worse than reagan.

[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 61 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

To be fair, betting on the apathy and cowardice of the US voter base is a pretty safe bet, and a bet that's served him well so far.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 19 hours ago (18 children)

Apathy is a poor turn of phrase for a fascist takeover.

The problem in the US isn't apathy. ICE doesn't seem apathetic. The military doesn't seem apathetic. Silicon Valley doesn't seem apathetic. Wall Street doesn't seem apathetic. The billionaire class is engaged and has financed an enormous army of brownshirts to flatten dissent.

Meanwhile, people are fighting and dying on the streets. Parades of people march in opposition. Blossoming networks of activists inform on and undermine the state. Lone wolves even take pot shots at the President.

There's apathy and complicity in the senior leadership of the opposition. But they're a fraction of a fraction of the agents involved in the conflict.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So many people (or bots, but especially on reddit) get their panties in a bunch when you say the DNC is not your friend. They are complicit. There are a handful of politicians that caucus with Dems that I really believe are fighting for the little guy, but the party as a whole loves the power/wealth the ruling class is gaining through the fascist takeover.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 13 hours ago

Eh, I dunno. I don't think the DNC is my "friend", but I also recognize that the harm caused by democrats is a paltry fraction of that caused by republicans, and I do find it offensive when people equate them, its absolutely lying and I absolutely consider it harmful.

I may be against the existence of the state, but I can also recognize that one choice gets way more people hurt and killed that I don't want to see hurt or killed.

Just because I recognize that the US is a poor excuse for a democracy doesn't mean I won't try and make use of the currently available mechanisms to prevent additional people from being hurt and/or killed. I'm not into the accelerationist bullshit.

I think part of the problem is that many of the people who complain about democrats absolutely will call them fully equal to republicans, which just makes them seem like an idiot that isnt worth listening to because of how separated from reality those comments are.

As bad as in certain situations? Sure. Overall? LOL no.

But just as some people will complain that I just wrote "whole ass paragraphs", nuance doesn't often play well on social media (including the fediverse) compared to "strong stances against!!!" whatever thing, which just furthers the divide rather than expanding the further left.

Just my opinion of course.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 27 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The article also speculates that Trump's surrender in Iran could be very bad for Israel, thanks to Iran's control of the Straight of Hormuz:

In a phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, Trump reportedly explained that the United States was negotiating a “letter of intent” with Iran that would “formally end the war and launch a 30-day period of negotiations” on Iran’s nuclear program and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. The purpose and effect of such an agreement should be clear: The United States is walking away from the crisis.

According to one U.S. official, Netanyahu’s “hair was on fire” after the call with Trump—for good reason. The Iran war may end up as the single most devastating blow to Israel’s security in its brief history. On the present trajectory, Iran will emerge from the conflict many times stronger and more influential than it was before the war. It will exercise leverage with dozens of the richest nations in the world, all of which will have an acute interest in keeping Iran happy. They will be unlikely to take Israel’s side in any conflict that it has with Tehran or with its proxies in Lebanon and Gaza, because Iran will have the means to punish them if they do. Israel will emerge more isolated than it has been at any time in its history—and not least from its only reliable protector, the United States. When Trump turns his back on Israel, as he must do to implement this policy, MAGA will gladly follow. The bipartisan anti-Israel consensus in the United States will grow and harden.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 24 points 17 hours ago

Good. Anything that hurts Israel, gives Palestinian citizens another day to breathe and live.

[–] TRBoom@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

From what I remember about dominionism, they need isreal to exist again so that it can be destroyed. I wonder if this is the rug pull

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever, just do it. Cut our losses and end that shitshow.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The problem it's not going to end the problems for a long time because Iran will have every reason to not cooperate even with beneficial terms. The USA showed its hand at being managed by a 6 year old who was only concerned about his perception.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, everyone who wasn't a moron knew it was dumb as fuck to start shit to begin with, but all we can do if we keep at it is make things worse.

[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Anyone who knows how maps work knew going to war against Iran is a stupid idea, that's why we have always used sanctions and why we were working on diplomatic resolutions under Obama, the only way to effectively attack Iran is either a compleat surprise with overwhelming force dropping a shit ton of dudes on multiple airports, or just years of what we are doing now. It's fucking stupid and futile this is going to have a net negative effect and cost far to many lives.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Even if America surrenders and walks away from the Iran conflict with its tail between its legs, Donny and his cult will still claim total victory, and there is a possibility that his approval may actually get a bump from this. Just in time to steal/cancel the midterms and start anew war with Cuba, oh and don’t think he’s forgotten about Greenland…

[–] 1D10@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm betting they want to spin this out until midterms then if the dems get congress and senate, Trump will walk away from Iran and blame it all on the Democrats not letting them "do what needed to be done".

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

It's taco time

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I honestly deeply despise articles like this. Articles like this are how we get trapped in forever wars. Fuck the Iran War. I didn't want it to start, and I don't want it to continue. But the main reason we get caught in forever wars is that the media lampoons any president that actually does the wise thing and ends the doomed conflict. They portray them as a coward or demonize them for letting troops' deaths go to waste.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

The media helps keep us there but the wars are pushed by the military industrialists and the fascist bourgousie who benefit from the wars, without the propaganda apparatus they would still keep us trapped in wars. A president can't end the wars because the primary power of the government comes from this profit driven national security/intelligence and military apparatus.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Trump's Endgame is always a test of just how stupid America can be ... and that is the key to his success - the near bottomless pit of American idiocy

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

He will have to removed by force to get him out of the White House in 28.

Why he wants that "ballroom " so bad.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago

He also hopes to slip away without us noticing the tens of billions of dollars he is siphoning off.

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