Slop.

Pro-drafters are hilarious. Their only argument other than the incel "wHy DoNt U dRaFt tHe WoMeN tOO!??" is calling others naive because they don't want to be kidnapped and sent to die in a trench in the service of a failed state.

Oh no, the war is existential, you say? To "the state"? Waow, I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, getting kidnapped and killed is existential to me, which is much more important tbh

You can't live in a free country and not consider the cost of that freedom

The cost of that freedom: nazis dragging every adult male off the street and bussing them to the front lines of the meatgrinder to defend the government (also all nazis).

These kind of posters deserve a one way ticket straight to the , maybe with a quick pitstop to study their brains to figure out what the fuck is wrong with them and how their brains got dysfunctional enough to spout this kind of shit.

at least some commenters made the point that a "nation" is abstract and "existential" threats to it are also abstract. as in, why the fuck should i give a shit unless that abstraction benefits me or the people i care about.

if a van with guys in it tries to snatch me off the street to die for the US, they'll never find those guys.

because i will roast and eat them in the ashes of the van. they will pay the price of my unabstract freedom.

Freedom is when you're dragged into a van and marched off to war

"if they don't get conscripted by the Ukrainians to fight the Russians now they will just be conscripted by the Russians when they invade Estonia later"

history started in Feb 2022

That's a lot of people posting from their computers and not from a trench.

I saw a video from the front in 2024, GoPro footage of an American mercenary. 2 Ukrainian soldiers were retreating toward him so he pointed his rifle at them and yelled to go back to their positions.

Without hesitating one of the ukranians shoots him twice and leave him in the dirt without breaking stride.

Just crossed my mind for no reason

I would never die for R*ddit and NATO

Huh remember that time a bunch of people from Reddit volunteered for Ukraine, went there, and either died, or said "wait actually this sucks shit, I wanna leave?"

look liberal - if the russians win germany is next, okay?

GERMANY.

white people live there!

Funny how liberals become the authoritarian parodies they accuse their enemies of being the minute reality intrudes on their fantasies

The philosophy of the solipsist and dilettante where everyone else is bound by responsibility to the capitalist state, except for themselves of course, because they believe cheerleading capitalism and war IS a sober responsibility all on it's own

A guilty system recognizes no innocents, indeed

Ain't that some shit

Free country ... getting forced to die

Bit of dissonance we got brewing there

what happens after this? people in the thread saying this is done else most would chose jail, but like he can just refuse to hold a gun, to go through training. I assume jail is what follows if so?

Whoever's downvoting this should get banned

What is stopping these users from dying for Ukraine if it's so glorious? Why aren't they on the next flight over?

It's so fucking disgusting how little regard they have for human lives as long as it is not them, fuck the army and all their stooges

If Putin got his way and got the band back together or whatever, I don't know Russian history, does the USSR come back? Are all the Baltic states like pieces of Exodia or what? What does he even want?