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I thought Hegseth had quoted Pulp Fiction and the issue was that it's blasphemous to do so by a gov official and such... but no, it totally looks like this idiot did not know this was not an actual Bible quote
The lesson here is "if you think they cannot possibly that dumb, forget about it and double down"
it totally looks like this idiot did not know this was not an actual Bible quote
He knew it wasn't an actual Bible quote, but he did think it was a modified version of Ezekiel 25:17. Which it definitionally is. The actual string is:
Ezekiel 25:17 –> (edit: Bodyguard Kiba modification) –> Pulp Fiction modification –> USAF modification
Whereas he thought it was:
Ezekiel 25:17 –> USAF modification
I think that's understandable if you've never seen Pulp Fiction (because you just assume the Pulp Fiction stuff was the USAF's addition), but it's still pretty funny.
The actual problem here, as usual, is separation of church and state being trampled over to make way for Abrahamic prayers in the US federal government.
25:17 is a small segment of the "verse"... Pulp Fictions rendition is made up all in except the "great vengeance and furious anger..." Part....
E.g. fake bible verse.
E.g. fake bible verse
You mean "i.e.", and yeah, he said that it's "reflecting" Ezekiel 25:17.
“They call it CSAR 25:17, which I think is meant to reflect Ezekiel 25:17.”
He literally never said it's an actual Bible quote or even close to one.
Yup. It's not giving an example so "e.g." doesn't make sense
For example fake bible verse
Separation of a church and state or nah? How is this allowed?
That went out the window long ago
Was it ever really a thing though [in the US]? Like aren't presidents sworn in on a Bible or something? And it says something about God on the money? And the pledge of allegiance? (The USA is a cult, btw)
That all changed during the “Red Scare” in the 1950’s. Swearing in on a bible is optional and lower offices have used e.g. a Quran in the past.
Before the Civil War, there was more separation. Things really started going out of wack in the 1950s (that's when "God" was printed on paper money). The swearing on the bible thing is a tradition from England. At US's founding 17% of the population were church members. In the the 1950s, 70% were. Now it's < 50%.
Presidents can be sworn in on whatever they want. At least one has used something else, although I don't recall who or what it was.
John Quincy Adams chose "The Volume of Laws" in 1825. Teddy Roosevelt had nothing right after McKinley's assassination in 1901. The only other oddball I see is Lyndon B Johnson used the closest prayer book after JFK's assassination
That's been out the window ever since 1956 when Eisenhower changed the US motto from "E Pluribus Unum [Out of Many, One]" to "In God We Trust".
Well, it's technically not part of any religion since it's a verse from a movie.
Are you telling me that Tarantino fans aren't a religion?
Technically illegal, but the people whose job it is to enforce it are Christofascists, so this is the result.
Performative christians should get double hell.
🤣 at least the end of the world is funny
These guys are such incredible losers. This guy in particular.
In the words of South Park, Pete Hegseth is a fuckin' douche.
Tv guy prays to movie quote. You can probably figure out which AI he used by asking them all for the verse.
There are so many layers of what the fuck going on with this. A veritable dagwood of blatantly wrong decisions over the course of decades, relentlessly stacked upon one another and pinned together with the twin toothpicks of true faith and true grift. This is the culmination of a soul destroying amount of failures.
Can we just talk about the fact that this "prayer" has the word 'aviator' in it and this moron in charge of our destructive power either didn't notice or didn't care?
"Pentagon Prayer Service"
Oh good lord we are dooooooomed
for years, I smugly thought our military was past this crap. what a dummy i was, no wonder everything is so fucked
The fact the military has chaplains still…
I'm not sure what irks me more. The existence of a "Pentagon Prayer Service" or this idiot quoting invented bible verses.
That's easy! All Bible verses are invented.
Dude probably prompted ChatGPT with the words Bible, badass, and US military.
How has this guy not had his ass beat for being cringe yet?
100% this came from ai slop gibberish that this idiot has been convinced is able to think and reason because it's easy to convince immoral idiot gibberators to drink the fruit flavor sugar drink if you pay them to.
This is one way I know that religion is bullshit, because if there really was a God, these guys would all end up a smoking hole at the podium.
Could be worse, he could have called upon Brother Maynard to read from the Book of Armaments...
“And St. Atilla raised the hand grenade on high, saying, ‘O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.’ And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats…”
Please tell me he started the quote from "Say what again, mortherfucker".
No. This guy is just distilled awfulness. He's all stick and no lollypop.
I wonder if he used Gemini or chatGPT to generate the speech.
but they will see it not for the lord god shall pour upon their minds a multitude of dumb fuckery!
ahh good ole copyright infringement
TIL the bible quote in pulp fiction is fake, any reason Tarantino felt the need to do so?
Having a laugh every time "religious" people quote his "bible" verse?
Or claim copyright on that lol
Doesn't the character say that he just started saying it because it sounds badass? Him misquoting is consistent with his characterization. I can't remember, it's been a lot of years since I watched it.
From this article (better than one posted yesterday), it's clear the error was saying the prayer was based on a Bible verse, when it's based on the Pulp Fiction script. In the movie, the verse is said to be from Ezekiel 25:17, but it is not.
The prayer itself is obviously not from Pulp Fiction or the Bible, as it mentions aviators and the call sign "Sandy 1." They call the prayer CSAR 25:17, and Hegseth was correct that that is in reference to Ezekiel 25:17. But it's the movie Ezekiel 25:17, not the actual one.